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im total newb, i just picked this game up a week or so ago, and im still really lost... with the new server and open beta i wanna start on that server, fresh player to a fresh server, i wont have too much of a handicap.

So in creating a character, I almost always play archer like characters, through too many years of video gaming and role playing its the char i identify most with, and enjoy the most, so playing an archer is a prettty hands down decision on that aspect.

now i hear all this talk about builds, and i understand the premise behind the hybrid, int, or str build. but from what i've been explained to about damage it seems to me like...

physical damage is done on EVERY melee (or bow) hit you do. str ability affects how much is done, and if your using a skill like a crit producing skill, or just a powerful attack then it applies the calculation to your base skill, but still results in only ONE number resulting for your physical damage.

magic damage is done ONLY if you infuse your weapon with the lvl 5 skill of each force. ie. Ice River Force 1. If my weapon is imbued, it will now add the magic damage to a weapon. so imbuing a weapon (without ergard to which imbue you use) now adds 2 factors onto your damage. and that comes from your weapon choice alone. now each imbue has its own magic attack power (for instance 12~23, which is the stat on Thundertiger force lv1), so that will add its own amount of damage per hit.

so in recap, so far, we have 3 sources of damage. 1 physical, and 2 magical.

it seems to me if im not missing any important piece of information, a pure str build isnt even worth it, i'd rather go 2:1 to take advantage of all the magical dmg sources...


correct me with anything thats pertinent, because i dont understand pure str builds....are all they designed for is the simple fact they have high HP?

i dont know why i decided to stop that post halfway through my thought process.


+1 post count.

but anywho, I can see high dmg from a pure str build coming from the use of your weapon skills tht add modifiers to strength, but without good mp (which would coem from the use of a 2:1 build) its pointless because you cant sustain the energy needed to generate the dmg that makes the pure str build (FEASIBLY) worth it, in my opinion.

so in hindsigh, 2:1 str:int bow user is what i may turn my character into, for the reasons stateed above. or maybe i should do a 2:1 int:str build (more int than str)

id unno, this games confusing

as i keep saying as i migrate between games:

max MP only limits your potion type use. if you have tons of pots, your max MP is tehcnically all of your pots combined. people who add int just for the MP are just lazy and dont like hitting the pot button every so often (assassin/bandit from maplestory anyone? those guys consumed a dumpload of MP but had a very low cap.... warriors were worse, but their skills were a fraction of the MP consumed vs. the thief class)

aye, i understand but that means that your limited then by the amount of $$ you spend, (and if you dont have much money, it doesnt work), and how full your inventory is, how many hotkeys you devote to potion keys.

but i still dont understand fully how much dmg increase you would even get, if you go pure str AND use mana burning skills that augment physical abilities...does it make you that strong? or would a 2:1 int:str be better to give me mucho dmg and decent HP

im still confusesd


edit:: add to the fact that after the herbalist in jangan ... i have no clue where to find higher lvl potions....aside from when im lucky enough to find them from other players

well, the way i look at it is this. you say that with a STR char, you'd be
limited by the amount of money you spend for MP pots, right? well, with
an INT char you seem to be in an even worse spot where that is
concerned. first off, with a pure int, obviously you're gonna be using alot
of heavy spells, which drains your MP quickly, no matter how much you
may have. so either way you're gonna need alot of MP pots. but with an
INT char, you also need WAY more HP pots, because you have to keep
your life up to a point where you won't be killed in 1-2 hits. since you
have a lower cap, you need to pot more often. especially if you are being
mobbed by a group of stuff. yes, there's the point that INT will kill faster,
thus taking less hits, but those hits will do a much higher % of your total
HP, so you have to keep a very close eye on it.

basically, from what i can tell, INT deals more damage per hit, but STR
can take more hits, so it's really just up to your gameplaying style.
personally, i use STR, but with a cold imbue to further reduce the number
of hits i take(along with my shield to block). the result is that i don't pot
very often at all, but kill slightly slower than i would with a fire or lighning
imbue. it works out for me, since i truly hate wasting money on pots ^_^

Well, well, well... Pure strength is better for people who've just started playing, because then they won't die so fast if they're put into pressure by some super strong monster because they'll have the HP to last them for a while, and their physical resistance is higher.

But unfortunately, if you're thinking of changing, 2 problems here.

1)You become a hybrid which sorta makes you not so well off in PvP...

2)You become used to the fact that you have enough HP to last, so you look at your health less often and when you fight stronger monsters, you're not used to watching your health. Int users have to be really sharp, because their HP will drain fairly quickly. What's worse, they don't have the health to last for very long.

Pure ints, of course, DO have advantages. They kill fast. That's what saves them actually. It's kill or be killed. They kill fast, but use lots of pots. So what's the advantage? They lvl fast, since they kill monsters so fast. They usually lvl faster than strength if they put time into training, so basically even if you die lots, you should still be able to train faster than pure strengths.

So be pure int, and kill or be killed. Be pure strength, and get your lazy ass whooped if you change, but saves you your life against higher lvl people if their a little higher than you.

actually I'd liek to point out, that the build doesn't really do jack shit for you.

if you suck at silkroad, you suck at silkroad.

it's all down to the gamers skill,

a level 40 veteran can take down a level 50 idiot.

that said, nice to see someones doing research

Maybe so, but if that lvl 50 idiot has power, he won't be so easy to take down will he?

yes, because power in the hands of an idiot is a waste of power. if he doesn't know how to use his skills and build right, he's still gonna lose.

the way i see it, choosing str/int totally depends on ur internet connection
int type, u lag u die
str type, u dont die

no no seriously, i dont know which is better
im getting two versions of opinions
i read in some site; str char excels lv50+
while int dominates pre lv 50
from this forum, however, i keep hearing int does way more dmg than str
either way, since i lag often, ill go str
and plus the fact that i like wpn skills better than force

you might keep hearing that here because -most- people here aren't level 50+, so everyone's experience tells them that int is stronger. i've also heard that in higher levels str is better, especially in pvp

Uhhhh... excuse me? Power in the hands of an idiot is a waste of power? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Yes, the skills matter, and it's the hybrid's fault he wants to be hybrid! Pure and good at skills VS Pure noob who doesn't know how to use skills, the pure who knows how to use the skills will definitely win. Conquerers can be really smart, and outwit their opponents, but without power, they can't do anything anyway. And yes, a lvl 40+ hybrid MIGHT be able to beat a lvl 50+ pure, but if he had power won't he have an easier time combatting the lvl 50+?


Anyways, pure ints have quite an advantage when their at higher lvls. They've got nuke spells, which strength pures don't have lots of defence against. (note that hybrids don't have that full power to do serious damage with nuke spells, so pure strengths can last) And maybe hybrids could dominate at the lower lvls, because pures aren't fully developed yet. Pure strengths have super HP, but low mana. When their lvl is really high, they will have enough mana, and the same goes for pure int, except they will have just enough HP to last.

Pure ints don't neccasarily lose to pure strengths at lvl 50+. Pure strength's attacks won't increase as much as pure int's attack, and pure ints can take advantage of pure strength's weakness, their low magical defence. So pure ints can just keep charging up magical spells after magical spells and launch them all at the pure strengths. Therefore, it is also important for pure strengths to counter this weakness. When you're around quite a high lvl and wish to go PvP, make sure you wear either garment or protecter, because you already have quite alot of physical defence, so you won't do so badly on strength hybrids and everything.

For pure ints, just wear whatever suits you, because everything works for pure int. You can wear garment and run fast and save MP, and you might not be losing much health because you can just keep launching spells after spells, so you won't get hit so much. If you wear protecter, you still go rather fast, at least faster than normal, and save some MP, but you'll have to use up a little more MP, but will save some HP from monsters. For armour? Not really so good, no bonuses for armour. You waste lots of MP, but you'll save HP, and in PvP, you probably need physical defence the most, because that is pure ints weak point. So it's just your opinion in this case.

I was planning on going hybrid int as much as possible now but now i am so unsure

i think one shld choose pure INT/STR based on the gaming style they like the most.. i like close melee action so i went for pure STR.. if u like staying far and doing max dmg with nukes u shld go INT..

i donno abt hybrid's cuz i never played hybrid before..

Int also increases your spell damage, not just your mana capacity.

Hybrids may have an easier time not getting killed by pures in PvP, but will also have a harder time killing someone. The cost for versatility is lack of power, but versatility is power, and it's adaptable to a given situation...

A hybrid may be able to outlast a pure str's mana pool, and may also be able to survive a pure int's first barrage and get close enough to drain their small HP pool. Then it comes down to who has more potions. Anyways, my (hyrbidish) build's focus is being a shock troop while my buddies riddle the mobs / other players with arrows.

It's more of an issue of finesse vs. brute force, or one of overall balance vs. weakness to something. It's better to be better than average at everything than really good at one thing, imo. With a hybrid you may not be able to 1-hit everything, but you also won't get 1-hit, so... Kinda like the tortoise and the hare.

I guess the primary concern is that a hybrid wouldn't be able to cause enough damage to a pure to bypass their pot rate and actually kill them, so I'd suggest a hybrid as a shocktroop / PvE solo character.

excues me, but...... you just screamed at me, and then agreed with me? and all in one paragraph too. you said basically the same thing i said...... people that don't use their power correctly will lose...... i NEVER said you DON'T need some kind of power, all i said is that you have to know how to wield it too..... try reading a little better next time....

also, you say that str has no defense aginst nuke spells? how exactly does that work? they have massive HP, and if wearing garms(like alot of str chars do), then they'll have pretty good magic defense too. so, how do you figure that?

another thing, i'm just curious, but how much level 50+ experience DO you have? you talk alot about it, so i figure you must have at least 3 50+ chars, one pure str, one pure int, and one hybrid. that must be where you're getting your info from right?

seriously tho, next time don't scream at me, because you didn't even understand what i said.