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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:40 pm  |  |  
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					| Crumpets wrote: Knuckles X wrote: Just been online seeing Epic won and WOW they're such little kids. Right after their victory, they're starting to act like they're king of the world or somethin'. And they really expect Avalon to quit their guild just because of this small loss? Not a chance on my watch. Why would they listen to cheaters? They'll just keep going and fight against the bots like they should be. I wouldn't have wanted it any other way
 
 Not trying to defend botters, but I'm 100% sure if Ava won .. it would be the same name calling / proudness coming from the 'legits'. ;ps'with the quotes in "legits". niqqa i will **** yo shit up_________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:42 pm  |  |  
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					| Recruiting everyone possibleEvery item mall scroll
 Deleveling Euros for more points per kill less when killed
 Tons of outside buffers
 
 Does anyone ever think of a fair fight?  Cheating to reach cap then having to go those lengths for a simple War?  I don't understand how fun this game is when you are always finding some way to "not play" to reach goals.
 
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			| Epinephrine | 
				
									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:43 pm  |  |  
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					| Fly wrote: sure ill disband. after i find a legit guild to give the fortress to. cant disband while holding the fort. So just give the guild to a lvl 1 char, and all others should leave the guild and disband union. its that easy edit: oh, not defending botters, but there were also some botters that pleased to stop the flaming war. and dont forget about chars like EPIC_DISBAN uh? Flaming is the spice.
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			| Crumpets | 
				
									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:43 pm  |  |  
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					| t0rch wrote: s'with the quotes in "legits".
 
 niqqa i will **** yo shit up
 Saying legits without the _'_ is so deroggatory. It's like saying someoen is a fuc king jew. When infact .. he's just a 'jew'._________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:45 pm  |  |  
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					| Corrupt wrote: Recruiting everyone possibleEvery item mall scroll
 Deleveling Euros for more points per kill less when killed
 Tons of outside buffers
 
 Does anyone ever think of a fair fight?  Cheating to reach cap then having to go those lengths for a simple War?  I don't understand how fun this game is when you are always finding some way to "not play" to reach goals.
 
 I would say good war but the amount of cheating going on is just beyond retarded.
 +1 And maybe a fair rematch without those things Corrupt stated. + we started very early so we didnt have every1 ready._________________
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			| IceCrash | 
				
									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:46 pm  |  |  
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					| guys, if it's needed, let's just do thisFirst, find the meaning of even, or fair.
 then say the conditions both parts had.
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:47 pm  |  |  
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					| Fly wrote: sure ill disband. after i find a legit guild to give the fortress to. cant disband while holding the fort. But can kick guild members + disban union thats almost the same as disbanning ?_________________
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			| iGod | 
				
									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:49 pm  |  |  
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					| Norain_ wrote: Corrupt wrote: Recruiting everyone possibleEvery item mall scroll
 Deleveling Euros for more points per kill less when killed
 Tons of outside buffers
 
 Does anyone ever think of a fair fight?  Cheating to reach cap then having to go those lengths for a simple War?  I don't understand how fun this game is when you are always finding some way to "not play" to reach goals.
 
 I would say good war but the amount of cheating going on is just beyond retarded.
 +1 And maybe a fair rematch without those things Corrupt stated. + we started very early so we didnt have every1 ready.Don't say that it was early, Fly sent the war "application" or whatever its called
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:51 pm  |  |  
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					| iGod wrote: Norain_ wrote: Corrupt wrote: Recruiting everyone possibleEvery item mall scroll
 Deleveling Euros for more points per kill less when killed
 Tons of outside buffers
 
 Does anyone ever think of a fair fight?  Cheating to reach cap then having to go those lengths for a simple War?  I don't understand how fun this game is when you are always finding some way to "not play" to reach goals.
 
 I would say good war but the amount of cheating going on is just beyond retarded.
 +1 And maybe a fair rematch without those things Corrupt stated. + we started very early so we didnt have every1 ready.Don't say that it was early, Fly sent the war "application" or whatever its calledWe might have started early, but Epic had TONS of outside buffers/ressers , the size of two guilds worth ... that isnt anywhere near fair._________________
 
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:51 pm  |  |  
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					| After one year. They finally defeated Avalon...
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 ...
 
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 Good for them. I guess.
 
 
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			| skillznl | 
				
									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:55 pm  |  |  
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					| Fly wrote: sure ill disband. after i find a legit guild to give the fortress to. cant disband while holding the fort.NOOOOOOOO T.T Even if avalon won do you think that Epic will disband the guild?
 Why disbanding the guild while they didnt even play fair
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			| Fly | 
				
									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:56 pm  |  |  
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					| skillznl wrote: Fly wrote: sure ill disband. after i find a legit guild to give the fortress to. cant disband while holding the fort.NOOOOOOOO T.T Even if avalon won do you think that Epic will disband the guild?
 Why disbanding the guild while they didnt even play fair
cuz im not like them. fair play means something to me._________________
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			| IceCrash | 
				
									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:57 pm  |  |  
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					| wow Fly, are you serious? :o _________________
 
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:58 pm  |  |  
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					| srsly, some of these ass cunts on the forums need to get banned for bot support.  _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:59 pm  |  |  
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					| JKMB wrote: srsly, some of these ass cunts on the forums need to get banned for bot support.  +infinite mods should wake up >.>_________________
 
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:59 pm  |  |  
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					| could give it to midnight and move avalon members to camalot so people can't say anything if you used Ava[i]on and have midnight leave union for fortwar and let them in to destory the heart, juts keep one person in avalon to open the gates for them and give camalot midnight's spot in the union for the fort war _________________
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:02 pm  |  |  
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					| iGod wrote: Norain_ wrote: Corrupt wrote: Recruiting everyone possibleEvery item mall scroll
 Deleveling Euros for more points per kill less when killed
 Tons of outside buffers
 
 Does anyone ever think of a fair fight?  Cheating to reach cap then having to go those lengths for a simple War?  I don't understand how fun this game is when you are always finding some way to "not play" to reach goals.
 
 I would say good war but the amount of cheating going on is just beyond retarded.
 +1 And maybe a fair rematch without those things Corrupt stated. + we started very early so we didnt have every1 ready.Don't say that it was early, Fly sent the war "application" or whatever its calledSIR. WHERE YOU GET THOSE SCREENIES BOI!?!?!_________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:02 pm  |  |  
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					| Deleveling to give you and edge in war is the lowest.  Bot all those noobs back up to 90 and the point range will be incredibly different.
 I'm so astonished Epic went so low.  I didn't even see our people getting outside buffed, while I'm attacking a str chinese with fences while a outside warrior is kept alive with a cleric who can't be killed?
 
 Have your win.  If we ever rematch it better be 2 Guilds in the middle of nowhere with no delvling BS.  Do people really feel satisfaction winning knowing they had to play unfair?  You level your char to 90 and want a challenge, but have to go to such lows to help ensure a "win."
 
 I don't even know why people bot in this game it's the same thing.  I've seen people trading one stars all day and don't have to worry about thieves (union) while one guy sit in town to rack up hunter exp.  Is it really that important to "be on top?"  You bot all day = afk Now afk trades?  What is the point in even playing the game if you're not there EVER O.o
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:03 pm  |  |  
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					| i tod this was a legit forum,every so hungry for them todisband there guild instead of supporting them.
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:04 pm  |  |  
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					| Here's something worth reading (I'm only saying the following according to what I've heard so far) Would they've raveled up every single character, leveled down lots of their characters, and all other things mentioned earlier if Avalon didn't promise anything and it would be just the normal war they did for months? I bet not They've only won now cause of motivation, thinking that Avalon actually quits if they lose and they thought everything is allowed. Tough luck  _________________
 
   
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:04 pm  |  |  
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					| I'm sure BH or SD or even Ody would be glad to hold on to the fortress for you. 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:06 pm  |  |  
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					| Avalon Can't Disband Since They Hold Fortress? So They Are Ganna Give It Up? _________________
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					| If avalon are srsly consider letting these cheating pieces of shit... **** that, I will quit sro or go bot rather then let legits degrade themselves like that. _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:08 pm  |  |  
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					| Downleveling for this guildwar isn't cheating in my opinion, it was tactic. And all i can say, it was a nice and great tactic! 
 I was in pvp at sama with a lowlevelchar yesterday and i see ppls from the legit guilds spamming things like "haha noobs, dlvl, that wont help you, enough points for our low chars" and those sh*t.
 
 
 edit. and like i said before, give Avalon to a lvl1 char and kick all members and disband UNION..
 
 edit2. oh, i remember you guys talking things like "win is win" when there was the sd vs blitzkrieg gw. so avalon lost...
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:08 pm  |  |  
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					| Fly wrote: I understand but still venus without avalon O.o But does that means you gonna quit as well or you gonna move to another guild?skillznl wrote: Fly wrote: sure ill disband. after i find a legit guild to give the fortress to. cant disband while holding the fort.NOOOOOOOO T.T Even if avalon won do you think that Epic will disband the guild?
 Why disbanding the guild while they didnt even play fair
cuz im not like them. fair play means something to me._________________
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:10 pm  |  |  
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					| Prophet Izaach wrote: After one year. They finally defeated Avalon...
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 Good for them. I guess.
 This sums it up in my eyes. I said something slightly similar in a global once epic won. They won  one war, even though they had to plan and organize for ages just to do it. They had no fun botting, yet all the legits have a great time grinding. Im legit and have more fun than any bot does and in the end thats all that really matters. Even if Avalon disbands, the members won't. We have plenty of other legit unions to keep up the fight. The war will never be lost.
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Avalon vs. Epic discussion  Posted:  Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:11 pm  |  |  
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					| We cant disband....  The game wont let us.  As long as we hold the fortress disbanding isnt possible. _________________
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					| Epinephrine wrote: Downleveling for this guildwar isn't cheating in my opinion, it was tactic. And all i can say, it was a nice and great tactic! 
 I was in pvp at sama with a lowlevelchar yesterday and i see ppls from the legit guilds spamming things like "haha noobs, dlvl, that wont help you, enough points for our low chars" and those sh*t.
 
 
 edit. and like i said before, give Avalon to a lvl1 char and kick all members and disband UNION..
 
 edit2. oh, i remember you guys talking things like "win is win" when there was the sd vs blitzkrieg gw. so avalon lost...
 Sir you are the bot supporter ! You deserve to be banned !_________________
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