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 Post subject: Re: CTF is fun...when you win (and when you lose)
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:31 pm 
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i spawncamped once of the 4 games, pretty much only game we won didnt get any tickets for me it was just standing there watching all the wizards kill the spanwed dudes.


btw dont you guys think its unfair that chinese nukes are way slower then wizard nukes. only way i can kill a wizard is if i do Soul cut, and then shock lion but if hes not in life control i still get pwnt.....



Phantom + knockdown should do the trick.


When the other team is getting spawn killed, buff them. Or, at the very least, if you dont have any buffs, trade spam your teammates who are spawn killing = P


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Well, for something that is for fun, I'll throw up swing march and a tambour and use mana breeze when I see it's needed, but if you think I'm going to sit there and hit mana cycle for the whole 20min, well, that's what I do the rest of the time in SRO, I'm not doing it in here. In all the CTF events I've been in, I've only ever had one person give tickets to me and cleric (because we're support classes, thanks Elija)if more ppl were willing to share like that, then I'd mana cycle you for 20min. CTF to me is all about fun, and getting to do something I don't normally get to do, PvP.

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Well, for something that is for fun, I'll throw up swing march and a tambour and use mana breeze when I see it's needed, but if you think I'm going to sit there and hit mana cycle for the whole 20min, well, that's what I do the rest of the time in SRO, I'm not doing it in here. In all the CTF events I've been in, I've only ever had one person give tickets to me and cleric (because we're support classes, thanks Elija)if more ppl were willing to share like that, then I'd mana cycle you for 20min. CTF to me is all about fun, and getting to do something I don't normally get to do, PvP.
Do you think anyone has given me a single ticket for being cannon fodder so they can get kills? No. Most people on my teams have gotten 10 or 15 tickets each event, and I've gotten 11 in total, from five events. You don't se me whining about it.

It just sucks being on a team with no buffs, going up against a full team with full cleric/bard/warrior buffs. You've got way less chance of surviving that than surviving being spawn camped.

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 Post subject: Re: CTF is fun...when you win (and when you lose)
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You made a great point SlyckMyx.....last CTF I was in where we had a cleric buffing (and doing a great job of)...I didn't even think to post 1/2 way through the event for him to see my afterwards for 1/2 my tickets (I ended up with 9 and I would gladly have given him 4)....I just simply didn't even think. I will in every event going forward with a cleric or bard immediately let them know to see me afterwards to share any tickets I get. Thank you for the reminder.

Heh....last 10 tickets I turned in = YES ONE (1) ONE HP Grain.........LOL....I am more into the xp and the team pvp experience than the tickets per se.

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You made a great point SlyckMyx.....last CTF I was in where we had a cleric buffing (and doing a great job of)...I didn't even think to post 1/2 way through the event for him to see my afterwards for 1/2 my tickets (I ended up with 9 and I would gladly have given him 4)....I just simply didn't even think. I will in every event going forward with a cleric or bard immediately let them know to see me afterwards to share any tickets I get. Thank you for the reminder.

Heh....last 10 tickets I turned in = YES ONE (1) ONE HP Grain.........LOL....I am more into the xp and the team pvp experience than the tickets per se.
Same here, I'm giving away or selling my tickets if I get any.

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 Post subject: Re: CTF is fun...when you win (and when you lose)
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Do you think anyone has given me a single ticket for being cannon fodder so they can get kills? No. Most people on my teams have gotten 10 or 15 tickets each event, and I've gotten 11 in total, from five events. You don't se me whining about it.


It wasn't whining, I was simply stating how I view the event. If it was FW or a GW, totally different, that's about supporting my guild/union and I'll happily buff ppl and not get kills. And you can't be comparing your Chinese class to my bard class in terms of effectiveness in pvp are you? I hope not.

I do admit, I am in a bit of quandary when it comes to being in a pty with known botters. Do I buff them and help them get tickets? I haven't done that so far beyond group buffs that I can't control. But is there any kind of union rule regarding this? What are other people doing? I do know I lookout for BHA/Avalon people before anyone else inside the event. :?

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 Post subject: Re: CTF is fun...when you win (and when you lose)
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I absolutely LOATHE it when either team goes on a spawnraping spree. When it's the opposite team, I just wait the time to run out on the floor. And taunt them. If it's my team, I stay back and try to get my team to stop being idiots. Like the last match. However my team appeared to be totally incompetent goddamn idiots. I got one ticket from that game, and it was from winning.
It's really annoying that some people ruin the event because CTF is basically the only way to get (group) pvp at lower levels.
I just love the event when the teams are balanced and neither spawnrapes.

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My first game after the update was an amazing one. Both teams were 34/35 and the other team got the flag first. Instead of attacking us they defended the flag and tunnel. It was great.


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By the way, if you happen to finish your mobs before the other team does, don't kill the other team's mobs too! We thought we would be helping them out by killing their mobs, but we ended up ksing their key instead! And then they couldn't get out of the room LOL (sorry Jay!). So we spent the next 10 minutes sniping each other through the door.

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 Post subject: Re: CTF is fun...when you win (and when you lose)
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I just hope the CTFs aren't glitched as bad as they were last time around... no mobs... sometimes mobs in the hallway... missing flag or flag starts off in a room. :x

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I just hope the CTFs aren't glitched as bad as they were last time around... no mobs... sometimes mobs in the hallway... missing flag or flag starts off in a room. :x

Dun worry. Seems it's working pretty well, at least I've been in the right level category and the mobs have always spawned. So far the only thing that has messed it up is players. Spawnrape and killing other team's mobs mainly. Overall I'm pretty satisfied with it, much better than last time.

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@Libertarian: You should try using ice as an attack some? Most people aren't ice proof at any level anymore, so using ice would slow them down a lot. On my blader, I have ice maxed to the mastery level for just that reason. It is hard to live through the attack of an ice blader when you aren't ice proof.

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woot the ctf that was like 2 houres ago. i got 21 tickets with an npc sword

s/s nuker. my team rocked. cleric who actually used his buffs ^^ and the wizards that 1hit the rouges so i can 1hit knockdown the wizards.

damn that was an easy fight they spawnvamped us and we lost but we did fight back and hard!

21 tickets 5 went to the cleric who buffed me since he got at least 6 tickets aswell.

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today I got lvl 60 mobs over me while the highest was 45 so it is kinda buggy for my taste
and always unfair teams
5 full sos set bots vs a stupid team

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 Post subject: Re: CTF is fun...when you win (and when you lose)
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today was my first ctf ^_^. i cant believe that its so fun!!!! i was being cleric, and we kept dieing to the wolves :banghead: ) and then the other team got the flag so we could fight them, and we won ^_^. i got 1 ticket (lol). is it like, the more ppl u kill, the more tickets u get?

btw, more warriors need to join ctf. my team was filled with chinese and some wizs :banghead:

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when me and lunar was in ctf we got spawned raped near the end but it was fun for the first bit 2 tickets FTW lol btw i would pay silk for the fw suits cuz they cool

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Getting spawn camped by legits....as they ham it up with the bots spawn camping is so sad.
I am severly disappointed in someone right now and I don't know that I will ever party with them again. :? :x

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 Post subject: Re: CTF is fun...when you win (and when you lose)
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Getting spawn camped by legits....as they ham it up with the bots spawn camping is so sad.
I am severly disappointed in someone right now and I don't know that I will ever party with them again. :? :x

Who :shock:

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my only gripe is we cant make the teams before hand, or theres no way that the game reckonizes union tags and places union in a party together at spawn.
otherwise loads of fun hoho,

oh and to the clerics, if you state at the start of the party you will only play support class if we share tickets, than dam yes i would share tickets


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ShiningBow and my wife always ended up on the opposite team from me. They had no problem teaming up against me. :D


Must fun ever. I wish it was an every day event.


No problem right.... YOUR IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL FFS


But pretty fun

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LatinLegends from Avalon Union are freaking campers,
And im I aint rong,Avalon against camping?

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@Libertarian: You should try using ice as an attack some? Most people aren't ice proof at any level anymore, so using ice would slow them down a lot. On my blader, I have ice maxed to the mastery level for just that reason. It is hard to live through the attack of an ice blader when you aren't ice proof.
I don't have ice anymore. But I'm thinking about going back to ice more and more...but I love Grass Walk too much. :(

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Getting spawn camped by legits....as they ham it up with the bots spawn camping is so sad.
I am severly disappointed in someone right now and I don't know that I will ever party with them again. :? :x

Yeah, we were spawn camped by a SuddenDeath member this time, xbow rogue.

He said he was just killing a pk2 editor, but I don't know...

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Putting a zerked opponent to sleep = priceless
I got to kill a guild member at least, while I had a xbow rogue trying to kill me. The only thing that saved me was my shield (thank you Sanjou!). :P

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I even got to fight some people from BHA that were on the opposite team. They killed me. They killed me hard. Damn spear nukers. :D

Hello there! :D

Spawncamping and CTF ethics in general seem to be rather complex issues for some reason. I did spawncamp once, in my very first CTF match against a team full of botters as far as I was able to judge. But that didn't matter, it happened out of pure noobishness. I also got spawncamped myself and everytime it happened, I managed to break out of it, I am Chinese in superior gear after all. Thus I don't see the point behind refusing to respawn, shall those Xbowers get some tickets, I don't care, it's just too satisyfying seeing half their team lying dead on the floor around your spawn after they fail one-shoting you one single time. Also those that are seemingly unhappy about having lots of Chinese in team, at least in lower levels (I lack the experience in higher levelled CTF matches to judge it), remember, in such a situation a Chinese can come in pretty handy.

When my team is spawncamping, I prefer waiting in the flagtunnel for the other team to break free, if they don't, well.. then I'm still waiting.
Matches without spawncamping Xbowers and Wizzards can be much more rewarding, ticket-wise, for all the other players. Can anyone beat 40 tickets in one match?

CTF is about to start in one minute...

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My last one was 3 bot glavers (one with sos I think) and one chinese nuker with sos shield. So everyone that res'd was one hit. The 4 took turns of who would kill the next guy as he res'd cracking jokes the whole time. I am euro wiz in robes so I pretty much was one hit. So no in this case it was absolutely fine to lay down and not let them get anymore tickets....they were proud they had 21 tickets but it could have been 50 had 3 of us that decided to stay down kept res'ing.....they got tired of us laying there and brought over a cleric and tried to res us so they could kill us again. Now you tell me where the fun in standing up dying standing up dying standing up dying. I prefer to chat anyway as the time of the event runs out and wait for the next time and hope for the best.

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My team just got spawncamped.. well, not all the way out. We got the flag ages before they even opened their door. So I spent my time killing mob after mob until they started pouring in.. as soon as the first one of them entered (all alone for some reason, lol) and died my team rushed to their room. I stayed fighting my mobs. Then they ocassionally died and the opposite team started their first attack. We drove them all the way back to their spawn. All of them were down and as always I returned to the tunnel waiting for the next wave, but.. aaah, okay, no big surprise, I was all alone there waiting, my team was eager to get tiiiiickets. I told my team to go back, not that I had expected any reaction. In fact, when the campers got weakened, one of them wanted to back out of the "battle" in order to regroup in our spawn. Nice attempt at teamplay, lol. Well, at some point they got overwhelmed, when the enemies flooded the tunnel I couldn't attack due to an obstacle (oh I love it even more than "Disconnected from the server.") and ended up on the ground. When I ressed our room was all full with red names. Some people in my team started complaining about the camping, i said "you spawncamped them first, your own fault, now don't whine", one enemy - Salman2 - went afk as he didn't want to participate in the camping. Protestant, a cleric from "Deutschland" guild, had yet another attempt at teamplay, trying to keep us from respawning and spawn altogether instead. He in fact convinced everyone but one - me. I respawned again and again, and I died again and again - BUT I took one Xbower or Wizzard with me everytime I went down. And that was totally worth it for me. Ten tickets from getting spawncamped only, could have been worse, lol. I killed crossbowers, had plenty of reasons to call people noobs and enough time to when waiting for ress - hence I had fun. :) But again I never tried doing the same with a wizzard.

No need for all too negative emotions after getting spawncamped, that's the way it goes. And Silkroad has lots of frustration up its sleeve in almost any situation because of weak rules and players with weak mindests. Noone should expect CTF to be an exception from that.

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No need for all too negative emotions after getting spawncamped, that's the way it goes. And Silkroad has lots of frustration up its sleeve in almost any situation because of weak rules and players with weak mindests. Noone should expect CTF to be an exception from that.
Well said. :) I had fun this time. My team decided to spawn camp the other team, so I started spamming them with trade offers and healing the people on the oppoiste tem (Force FTW!). It was kinda fun when the glavier from their team got away thanks to my healing and my team wondered what the hell I was doing. :D

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