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 Post subject: Steping over a line
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:17 am 
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So, they weren't lying when you said kari's confed account did rickroll on log in, i was giving the log in and it did so to me, that is steping over a line on behalf of the moderation of the confederation forums

wanted to make a video of it but the account is no longer valid, damage control i guess
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I never even talked to Kari once, but there is no evidence presented against them and only flaming as fly so likes to do. Its not right to deny them legit status simply cause you dis like him, and even worse preventing him from having even being able to speak his side of the argument. I wouldn't care if some evidence was shown but this was a step over the line there, there are processes set in place and they shouldn't be by passed simply cause dislike.

Perhaps some one thought it was funny, perhaps some one has forgotten the don't own the confederation, no one person does as per the very definition of the word.

Perhaps some one has forgotten the meaning of the word.


look i don't want/ like drama bullshit but its hard to stay quiet when you see such actions expesially in a system i put so much into


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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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Well, what are u trying to achieve by posting it here? We have our own forum to discuss about it dont we?

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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Well, what are u trying to achieve by posting it here? We have our own forum to discuss about it dont we?


Because the people in question can't manipulate his account here. ;) Oh, and foud; I'm coming back menz okie.

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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I think you just got Rick Rolled. :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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Well, what are u trying to achieve by posting it here? We have our own forum to discuss about it dont we?

you know good and well it'd probally end up deleted or edited, and even if not, Posting it here leave no chance of the involved parties to lock/ edit/ delete thread

I don't know or have anything for or against Kari but such behavior shouldn't be exhibited by moderation of the Confederation, or should i say the site owner

I beleive in unbiased leadership, even my own trusted 2nd in commands i always want evidence shown for accusations, and I beleive every one even if you don't like them is owed a chance to unbiased treatment in such matters and have always tried to argue keeping things fair

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Well, what are u trying to achieve by posting it here? We have our own forum to discuss about it dont we?


Because the people in question can't manipulate his account here. ;) Oh, and foud; I'm coming back menz okie.


seriously? sweet shit

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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Heh yeah, I was rickrolled too because of that. I think it's actually pretty clever of him to pull something like this off lol. IDK that's just me. Of course it's not a good thing this happened, but still I think it was pretty humorous.

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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Feel free to move to Phoenix with me and many other people...

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there was a post by thc saying he did similar thing on SRA with some "miserable group". get out of venus and lets conquer phoenix together as a team.

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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lol a recruitment? I'll pass

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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lol a recruitment? I'll pass


oh well then, im sure one day you will be fed up and regret not moving on sooner. best of luck to u

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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they day i move from venus is the day that 100 cap comes out, islam comes out my premium uns out and Avalon losed fortress..

so if all those things happen one tuesday ill join the newest server there is and do the quick leveling thing with the light nuker and bow and whatever else,

and then p0werfarm a char xD

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getting rickrolled or rickrolling people is like the LOWEST forum of humor,

making it that when you log into an account you cose the Internet Browser And get rickrolled would be even lower i guess.

that is just plain pathetic

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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kari can keep his drama off the confed. he is not the leader of his guild. he does not need an active account on the confed to keep his guild clean. his drama is unwanted there.

having a working confed account is not required for confed membership. infact, i banned 2 users from my own union. they are still in my union. they are still legit confederation members. but there spam posts are not welcome on the confed.

crossing a line would be linking to meanspin not rickroll. rickroll is awesome and i would not mind getting rickrolled at all :D

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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I WILL keep drama whoring off the Confederation. If you dont like it Foudre, I suggest you resign as a Senator and stick to SRF.

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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I WILL keep drama whoring off the Confederation. If you dont like it Foudre, I suggest you resign as a Senator and stick to SRF.


I seriously had to "lol" at this. Not cause the fact that when Kari logs in, it auto-redirects him to the RickRoll, but more that you have to resort to this to make people shut up so you can have your way. Look at it unbiased; not as a member of Avalon, BHA, none of the above, or even a member of Venus. All you're doing is trying to silence your critics. Drama whoring? So... you should do that to yourself then, yes? (don't forget, you were the ones to call BHA bot supporters, inert-jello-legits, etc etc). And now you have the gall to call out Foudre here and say if you don't like it then quit as a senator? Don't bother replying, I've already set you to foe and hopefully you'll be banned soon.

Please do the same to my account you cunt.

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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I WILL keep drama whoring off the Confederation. If you dont like it Foudre, I suggest you resign as a Senator and stick to SRF.


I seriously had to "lol" at this. Not cause the fact that when Kari logs in, it auto-redirects him to the RickRoll, but more that you have to resort to this to make people shut up so you can have your way. Look at it unbiased; not as a member of Avalon, BHA, none of the above, or even a member of Venus. All you're doing is trying to silence your critics. Drama whoring? So... you should do that to yourself then, yes? (don't forget, you were the ones to call BHA bot supporters, inert-jello-legits, etc etc). And now you have the gall to call out Foudre here and say if you don't like it then quit as a senator? Don't bother replying, I've already set you to foe and hopefully you'll be banned soon.

Please do the same to my account you cunt.


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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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Avalonian wrote:
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I WILL keep drama whoring off the Confederation. If you dont like it Foudre, I suggest you resign as a Senator and stick to SRF.


I seriously had to "lol" at this. Not cause the fact that when Kari logs in, it auto-redirects him to the RickRoll, but more that you have to resort to this to make people shut up so you can have your way. Look at it unbiased; not as a member of Avalon, BHA, none of the above, or even a member of Venus. All you're doing is trying to silence your critics. Drama whoring? So... you should do that to yourself then, yes? (don't forget, you were the ones to call BHA bot supporters, inert-jello-legits, etc etc). And now you have the gall to call out Foudre here and say if you don't like it then quit as a senator? Don't bother replying, I've already set you to foe and hopefully you'll be banned soon.

Please do the same to my account you cunt.


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Arent you the one leaving Venus to go to Phoenix? whats up with you starting flames about venus everywhere?

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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Arent you the one leaving Venus to go to Phoenix? whats up with you starting flames about venus everywhere?


who said im flaming? im just giving someone a high 5.

once phoenix is out we will rock n roll. too bad u wont be a part of it :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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Arent you the one leaving Venus to go to Phoenix? whats up with you starting flames about venus everywhere?


who said im flaming? im just giving someone a high 5.

once phoenix is out we will rock n roll. too bad u wont be a part of it :cry:



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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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Avalonian wrote:
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Arent you the one leaving Venus to go to Phoenix? whats up with you starting flames about venus everywhere?


who said im flaming? im just giving someone a high 5.

once phoenix is out we will rock n roll. too bad u wont be a part of it :cry:

i need to see if i have teh money ph0r itz

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:31 am 
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Let's move the Confederation to SRF! Screw Avalon.


not that i stand by the decision to do what has happened to kari's account far be it

but i swear by everything i hold dear that if the confederation gets moved to srf i will personally delete every goddamn database bit before i see it posted here

the fact that nb and fly own the domain does not mean they run the show

in fact the whole idea behind the confederation was that it is NOT avalon's play ground and is why they don't even stick their fingers into moderating it and have passed that buck to me

now ok, his account has been farked up, i personally agree with a kuntdouchebag like kari getting banned from posting, he is nothing but trouble, but i cannot deny that he is legit

his guild has been whitelisted, which is all he wanted in the first place

this shithole of a drama topic needs to end; seriously

as for this whole move to srf thing; no offense to SG, whom i still think is a good leader, the mod team here can't even handle the plate you have in front of you

the amount of shithead posters and bot users you have including in your mod team, is just sickening; and you actually are proposing to move the flagship of legitimacy on venus here??!?!

i can;t believe i just Farking read that


i've said it once, i'll say it again

the fact that nb and fly can **** around with your account on the confederate site does not mean they have the power to translate that into the ingame environment, that remains solely in the hands of the senate and the dungeon moderator, which up till today has been me

the fact that most of my own union, is retarded to the point they can't see past the "omg avalon owns it" idea, sickens me like no other; and i refuse to put hours of my life on the line to help you guys any further

i seriously hope that all of you get a taste of a bot infested farked up server so you can see how much the confederation has done for your miserable noob asses wherever it might have been hosted


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telling me i have to resign for stating something i disagree with, hmm
You do forget i was asked to the confederation not the other way around
and damn goober, I don't think i could have said it better myself (no really i suck at words)

and Fly isn't the guild leader kari's alt? which would still be him, unless KariKaze isn't him

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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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telling me i have to resign for stating something i disagree with, hmm
You do forget i was asked to the confederation not the other way around
and damn goober, I don't think i could have said it better myself (no really i suck at words)

and Fly isn't the guild leader kari's alt? which would still be him, unless KariKaze isn't him


karikaze is not kari as far as i know; it's that other dude that was posting for him in the confed


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 Post subject: Re: Steping over a line
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Let's move the Confederation to SRF! Screw Avalon.


no offense to SG, whom i still think is a good leader, the mod team here can't even handle the plate you have in front of you

the amount of shithead posters and bot users you have including in your mod team, is just sickening; and you actually are proposing to move the flagship of legitimacy on venus here??!?!

i can;t believe i just Farking read that


i cant believe u out of all people just said that Tedo, ur judgment now comes into serious question. do you have proof that a mod of SRF is a botter who runs secretly runs goldbots?

Apparently, you haven't been reading the Exposed Botter section on the people you are supporting. You are in violation of the Confederation Rule #9.


I propose that it's in the best interest of the survival of the Confederation that and to everyone here we hold a vote here on SRF to officially move the Confederation to SRF. The actions of Fly/Nightbloom has done more harm to the COnfederation, and so is the judgment of Tedo. their ownership of the confederation and their attempts to subdue people to their rights without due process is getting sickening, including but not limited to rigging people's account because fly/nightbloom dont like them with the blessing of Tedo. Therefore I file for a motion to hold a vote here (not in the COnfederation where they can edit the polls and rig an election by inflating the vote count)

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You Avalonian just made me roll my eyes, several times over. Why do you even feel the need to comment on the confederation???????? You have no idea what you are talking about. And the fact that you agree with that idiot D2A and post the link to that crap in your signature is proof enough to me that you forgot to take your meds today.

Tedo never said they run gold bots, or that he has proof any mod bots............

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You Avalonian just made me roll my eyes, several times over. Why do you even feel the need to comment on the confederation???????? You have no idea what you are talking about. And the fact that you agree with that idiot D2A and post the link to that crap in your signature is proof enough to me that you forgot to take your meds today.

Tedo never said they run gold bots, or that he has proof any mod bots............


You made me roll my eyes more. Barotix already ruled that the evidence is "not false" and the accused admitted to it. where it came from doesnt matter. u make a unintelligle argument.

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If i may ask, what exactly happened?
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Let's move the Confederation to SRF! Screw Avalon.


no offense to SG, whom i still think is a good leader, the mod team here can't even handle the plate you have in front of you

the amount of shithead posters and bot users you have including in your mod team, is just sickening; and you actually are proposing to move the flagship of legitimacy on venus here??!?!

i can;t believe i just Farking read that


i cant believe u out of all people just said that Tedo, ur judgment now comes into serious question. do you have proof that a mod of SRF is a botter who runs secretly runs goldbots?

Apparently, you haven't been reading the Exposed Botter section on the people you are supporting. You are in violation of the Confederation Rule #9.


I propose that it's in the best interest of the survival of the Confederation that and to everyone here we hold a vote here on SRF to officially move the Confederation to SRF. The actions of Fly/Nightbloom has done more harm to the COnfederation, and so is the judgment of Tedo. Therefore I file for a motion to hold a vote here (not in the COnfederation where they can edit the polls and rig an election by inflating the vote count)


let's see, first off, i never said how a mod might be involved in botting activities, so since you decided to specify a way; i am led to understand that you know of one that does that

second,of course i didn't read the exposed botter's section because A i don't read these forums, and haven't for the longest time, the only time i come here is when i am redirected by others

third, i can't believe you are quoting a rule THAT I WROTE AND HAVE UPHELD FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR to me

my judgement comes into consideration? because i don't want something i have spent hours upon hours of toiling over wrecked by a forum and moderation team that can't even wipe their ass?
fine, consider it impaired then

for all the bullshit you guys spew about someone stating their opinion freely, you sure do get hostile when someone says something other than the general consensus on THIS site, which is obviously the opposite of the consensus on the "avalon" site

so do us all a favor, shut the **** up, and realize that no matter where you host something as big as the confederation you will get someone who isn't happy and think you are being biased

everyone knows i have always been a loyal supporter of bh/a in every matter, and if i support avalon it is only because i can in fact respect what they have done for this server

and if you could put aside your own "full-of-self" attitude, you would notice that i clearly said i do NOT agree with what was done to kari's account, so i beg of you, tell me where you see me in fact supporting "
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all i have said is that, the confederation is unbiased

and as for rigging the polls, i would love for you to elaborate HOW that is possible, honestly how? lol?

and you know what, how you can put, "more harm to the confederation" and "tedo" in the same sentence is beyond me, really it is


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If i may ask, what exactly happened?
( i only just heard about the site today after much drama so im not up to date with activities that occurred on the site )



basically nightbloom and fly are abusing their power and ownership of the COnfederation to rig people's accounts there for no reason and without due process or a vote. people are getting angry

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THAT I WROTE AND HAVE UPHELD FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR to me

so do us all a favor, shut the **** up, and realize that no matter where you host something as big as the confederation you will get someone who isn't happy and think you are being biased

and as for rigging the polls, i would love for you to elaborate HOW that is possible, honestly how? lol?

and you know what, how you can put, "more harm to the confederation" and "tedo" in the same sentence is beyond me, really it is


first all im going to have to ask you to calm yourself down, ease on the cap lock, and take a chill pill. where's the professionalism? it only goes to prove my point.

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and as for rigging the polls, i would love for you to elaborate HOW that is possible, honestly how? lol?


on vbulletin, administrators have an "Edit Polls" button where they can edit the vote count go download a copy of vbulletin off of torrent and see for yourself or go to the vbulletin.com site and ask them. here are their contact info:

Email sales@vbulletin.com 24 hours a day / 7 days a week
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call them email them. if u want ill be happy to make a video and demonstrate. not only are u unprofessional and have an attitude problem when i request for a vote to show the democracy, you are also ignorant of the world. and we all know fly is going to edit and rig the poll. jeez tedo. get your facts straight before u start running your mouth.

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