SuicideGrl wrote:
nightbloom wrote:
Yes, but those members dont have a forum full of anti Avalon bs. They dont suggest we are shut out of parties. They dont post bot sympathetic posts about their guild. I can be forgiving of a person I have some measure of control or assurance of control over. How do I fight WITH someone who is always trying to pull the rug out from under my feet? I am constantly defending myself and the legit choices we have made against Odyssey and their weather vane legitness.
the anti-avalon sentiments are being perpetuated, not alleviated. we MUST work to make it go away. it exists on BOTH sides. i can guarantee that their forum would be full of it less if the actions of some didn't continue to bring it about. WE CANNOT HEAL THIS UNLESS ALL ARE ON BOARD.
all i am asking is for you to try.
Wait what?
They asked me for help.... I gave it.
In return, they left my Union and tried to take it with them. Witch never hid that he wanted to "take the fortress".
Fast forward.
The guilds they took from my union eventually were as loyal to Odyssey as they were to Avalon and deserted one by one. They again ask me for help. I am discussing it with Fly when they join BHA. I let it alone. I never said anything about it.
Then the party thing happens.
I have STUPIDLY offered up my support over and over. I have had nothing but backstabbing in return. I am only going to volunteer for being burned once or twice.