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It seems to me, that no matter how much you try to help or explain, there are those that will hear only what they choose to hear. My kids to this to me at home all the time. I can tell them to flush the toilet 300 times a day and I guarentee I will walk in the bathroom 5 minutes later and guess what.....no flushed toilet. But does that mean I give up and not tell them anymore....no......I stay on their ass.

I have spent some time away from Odyssey while playing on my noob, and I think it is time for me to move her to Odyssey so I can better monitor and step in when needed. I once wrote a guild message to Odyssey that stated "simply saying I didn't know they were a bot it unacceptable." And to me it is. There are a few basic basic basic rules that we have all agreed on, as fly stated above, and yet there are people that still do not get.

-We do not allow botting at all.
This really should be self explanitory.

-we do not allow buying of gold.
How do we allow ppl to guy gold and say they are legit? All it does it simple cause and effect. Cause- you buy gold, Effect- you make them stay on the server that much longer. Not buying gold cuts back on the amount of gold bots. They do their little reports, and see "oh wait venus doesn't sell as much gold because the demand is not so high there." Gold bots are reduced.

-we do not allow plvl by bots.
This is the one that gets me. How do you say you are against bots but then pay them to level you? That is like a vegan wearing fur. Oh I don't eat animals because it is mean and terrible, but I wear fur because I am not the one that killed them for it and it is not like I ate them. Or a pedofile that says it is ok to look at child porn pictures as long as he is not the one that took them. After all he didn't really hurt the kids in the pictures. Powerleveling by bots is a passive support for them. Cause- powerlevel by bots, -Effect you reinforce there reason for staying on this server and help them make gold.

These are the 3 points that I choose to focus on. By focusing on these 3 points, in effect will eradicate the other. And maybe not eraidicate, but will heavily impact the other problems.

If someone can not follow these 3 simple rules, then very simply they do not belong in my legit guild or union. I can not make this choice for anyone. They have to make it for themselves. But my guild members work hard for what they have and I will fight for and protect their work. Because if I allow ppl to do these things, what I am telling my members is "hey sucker your hard work is a joke, you are not appreciated."

Whatever reason someone has left a guild or guilds or has been kicked, it happened. But do not hide behind your new guild and assert you position when you know you are wrong. By default, when you scam someone you have given them a new reason to stick around and screw things up a little bit longer. The best way to get someone to go away is to just pretend they are not there. I had a few friends that are bots, I thought if by being friends with them I could show them that being legit is really the way to go. And I failed terribly. All it did was make them feel what they are doing is not wrong. Do I hate these people? No, but I chose to seperate myself from them, and not let them think that it is ok to bot.

If you wanna be legit, then you need to be in it 100%. You are not afforded the luxury to pick and choose what part of the rules you want to follow. This is a choice you make. But we are not going to change our stance.

This is not aimed at one person either, this is aimed at alot of people out there in all the guilds that this happens with.

Hell, go scam them again, im proud to say i scam them as much as possible, fck bots. If thats the reason you got banned, might as well call them bot supporters.

Bot Supporters = Getting Plvled By bots, Having them in your union and or guild.
Partying with a bot shouldnt be frowned upon seeing as how many people on Venus are left without parties. Sorry but If there are 5 full parties at bones, and a party with mixed bot/legits with a space, then im joining the fcker. I mean honestly, would you want your guild members paying for plvl from a legit or partying and learning their character?( even though there is a known botter in the party)

Yes, yes, that rules can you have for your own guild(s) whichever you have. But you can't never write some '' global rules for legit players, or any kind of global rules ''. As long you have your writed rules for your own gulid(s) i have no problems with it, but everything souds verry much on '' global rules ''. I know how i have come to my lvl, and if i wanna join a taxi party by a bot, I HAVE ALREADY JOIN IT ( not only 1 time, for sure 5 times or more ! ) and i gonna join it again when i will see some, there you don't pay half million or even more for 20 min of chat, 20 min for smoke and 20 min for shooting. Call me now a cheater, cracker, hacker, keyloger maker,.....do you think i care ?. I have also few friends which i know they bot. Do you think i will quit now my friendship to them because they bot ?. I have meet legit players which was also only some hyper active azzholes, already here i know for 4-5 for sure.
Or do you think 99 % of people which have and will join a taxi party playing by a bot care what you call them ?. Do you care that most of the people call avalon guild of noobs ?. No, you don't care !!, the same i don't care what some 2-3 % people call me which i even don't know. If you have your rules writed as some global rules, im the fist which write you '' i don't care what you call a legit player and what not ''.
I'm not here because i wanna fight with you, i have just other point of view on this game, which you can't tolerate the same as i can't tolerate your point of view when you write something what should be any kind of global rule. You don't have any rights to make some global rules you are not gods or something better like 1000's of other players on the server.

Tu es vraiment une imbecile Vienna. Viens pas ici empoisonner le monde legal avec tes idees stupid. Garde les pour toi. On veux rien savoir de ta vie pauvre conne.

You are really retarded Vienna. Dont come here to poison the mind of legit people with your stupid ideas. Keep them for yourself. We do not care about your life.

Umm, Azy, i tried Google translator >>>


Vous êtes vraiment retardés Vienne. Ne pas venu ici pour empoisonner l'esprit des gens honnêtes, avec vos idées stupides. Gardez-les pour vous-même. Nous ne se soucient pas de votre vie.

Seems you speak French good lol

These rules define who is legit or not on This server.
Actually, who is legit or not is told by the 3 amin legit Unions.

You are EXACTLY the standard type of Sro french player:
"I don't cheat but i use bot powerleveling; i connect via a loader ; i tolerate the bots in my guild; i think that the fking "sms" language is ok to chat; call me a Legit plz"
->Yeah i can characterize them very well because i tried to play with some of them.

And then if 95% of ppl on this server wants to be unlegits, we don't care. We rule this server. ANd anyone who thinks we don't , come and face us in a fight to prove the contrary.
We are the nobles , they are the peasants and the botters are the parias.

You Got Served! by Dou

Have a nice day.

wow... so you're saying that Avalon should bend the rules? Avalon should allow some cheating to go on as long as the guild member doesn't _actually bot_ themselves?

Getting power leveled by bots should be ok? - that part made me laugh. So let's all make a lvl 1 character, trace a bot all day on a horse while we go off to work/school, and still call ourselves "legit". How is that any different than botting? The bot is still giving you free exp.

No, I don't think Avalon should loosen up their rules at all. I'm not even active on Venus (certainly not enough to be an Avalon member) and I can see what they are doing is a GOOD thing.

First of all that rules define only in your head and in your union what is a legit and noone else,
if you think that even 1 player outside your ''über'' legit union will feel bad, bacause he was in a taxi bot party and you will call him a boter will feel bad or anything something like that ?. You can't be serious.
And by the way if you call all players boters, or non legit players which was in bot taxi party, you can kick 80 % players out from your '' über '' union. ( Probably you can kick then yourself to :D )
'' And then if 95% of ppl on this server wants to be unlegits, we don't care. We rule this server. ''
With 5 % you can't rule something and because this is just a game, you can't even with 100 %, this server is from Joymax and you are only some crazy group of people which dosn't tick in the right way anymore. Sorry but you write so many trash i don't know what else i can write you.
Well i go now to cinema > you to rule your peasants.

For the record, I am not part of Avalon union. Yes we once were, but we are no longer. Do we miss the union we were once part of, well of coarse we do, at the heart of the union are some really awesome people. But with 3 legit unions, we are able to spread the infection of being legit farther than ever.

The message still stands the same between us, avalon union, and BHA. (read above reasonable posts made for message explaination) Odyssey has taken their union down to 4 guilds as of right now. Not because we suck or we are stupid, because we honor the policies of our union and of the legit unions. We choose to surround ourselves in our union with those who also uphold the legit rules. Better to be banded together with 4 guilds with pride than a union divided on what is right and what is not. I do not hold any grudge against those that left, I really have no anger or hard feelings towards anyone.

We all just really want to make SRO a better place to play at the end of the day.

+1

Let me ask all you other people; How can you not be misanthropic when people like this exist, and quite a lot of em' too?

Vienna is french. You can still have faith in the human race while treating the french contemptuously. They don't really count.

(j/k I love your fries, bread and toast. french ppl rock!)

FREEDOM FRIES!!!!!!

get it right noob!

I love weekends when I mix up a batch of freedom toast for me and the kids. Then I give my wife a big freedom kiss for being so great. Hmmmm. Not sure that sounds right.

PASS ME SOME FREEDOM FRIES AND SOME FREEDOM DOGS!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: lol

I had to lol.

Ah shit. Teach me to keep my mouth shut.

Oi this is too much to read.

First of all if you scam a gold bot, more power to you, they are hurting our servers, and if you can take their stock with out compensating them with real money thats just as good as a bot trap, though scaming a gold bot i don't see happening only way i can see is if you spam exchange with them when they gather, and hope they fall for it.

People know the rules when they join the union, many times people who got bot plvled were warned, and not baned on first time, but after they are warned and caught again they were then kicked, i'm not actually aware of any one kicked on first plvl

But if you make rules and dont' enforce them, then there is no point, you are saying we should act like joymax. I'm not a harsh guy i beleive in 2nd chances and reasonable circumstances, how ever the rules are the rules, if you dont enforce them no one will follow them and the whole legit concept goes out the window.

First of all to the supporters of bot PL... You are missing the point and thinking only of yourself. The prohibition against bot PL isnt about you, its about them. You gain a little XP but they gain gold. Gold means they can buy stuff. We dont want them to buy stuff. We want Venus to be an uncomfortable, cold and unfriendly place for a botter to be so that they go back to the rock they crawled out from under.

The most extreme punishment for a social animal is isolation. They WILL leave if you follow the rules, guaranteed. Calling up the gold companies, ordering gold, then charging back seems OK on the surface, but now that gold co has 100 mil to make up for and you have injected 100 mil into an escalating economy. Partying with bots seems OK on the surface, but it only makes them think they are welcome here among us as equals, they are not. Using a no DC client is just a tiny sin but it IS an alteration of the client and a year ago, there would have been no debate on whether or not it is legit, it is not.

We KNOW it is extreme. We MADE Venus this way by the above restrictions. JoyMax isnt cleaning up our servers, we have to do it ourselves and that requires extreme action on our part. The degree to which we are anti bot isnt really up for debate. SD takes it a step further than Fly and I and includes scamming ANYONE. GOOD!! I love the fact that BHA is so full of militant and serious legit players. I do not worry about them letting botters into their parties, let alone their guilds and feel better knowing that when I am not here they are carrying the torch that Avalon lit.

The only way I really agree with this is if you then dump the gold so it disappears. Letting this gold enter the economy is bad, even if you distribute it to many ppl so it seems insignificant.

I consider bot gold to be counterfeit money. Dumping it into the economy is bad for everyone.

I suppose i can give you that then.

Clarification: So if I want to do a little soloing and join distr party with 3 other characters with names like lkjhsds, dfgdfg, asdfas - I should just dump out and keep trying to find a distr party so I can get the extra % or are we mainly talking 8 man share parties? Just for clarification - thanks.

4 men parties arent the same and we all know it.

Thanks. I thought it was different but I honestly was questioning it based on the push for a total bot banishment. I join the 4 man it increases the % xp increase for those 3 bots = them leveling up faster. I just wanted a posted clarification. Thanks nb.

I could just see the headlines.

I am in a 4-man dist party with the above named characters, I happen across IVY spawning, kill her, post the screenshot here for all to see, someone says MuMu is in a party of bots BANHAMMER!!!!!!!!!!