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from 4 turks to 300 bots..how is that the legit communities fault? it's part of the big problem that won't be solve as long as Joymax refuses to do something about it. nobody is undoing your work. the fight against bots is admirable but when the game becomes a "job" or "witch hunt" it takes the fun out of it.

anything i've posted here are my personal opinions and i am in no way speaking for my union as a whole. i had much respect for Avalon and your cause. You have many great players but some of you could use a small dose of humility and less arrogance.

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STFU with these bot accusations already dont make this situation more farked up then it is if you havnt got proof just gtfo

No hatred on my part. Just disappointment.

so get a server in which the bot war is already lost and your actions wont skrew it up for everyone else.

when i say "your" im not talking to you directly. im talking to those responsible.

And the 300 bots, 100% odysseys fault. Before there cute "anti-avalon" union with RP (which left us to go bot) we had them beat down to an almost dead guild. Now after gaining a 2nd life from the Odyssey union, they are the Largest Bot union at the moment and are responsible for more then half of that 300.

Once again, fake legits ..... up the fight for the real legits who have spent half a year WINNING the war.

Im not gonna hold hands with the traitors. I will now turn my fight against the cancer and wont stop till every last fake legit is back on there bot dominated server getting there ass whooped by there bot overlords.

good day.

So, it's ok for Avalon to have "Avalon Only" parties, but once the BHA starts doing it...we're fake legits and ungrateful? Could you be any more full of shit, honestly.

BH and the BHA have been nothing *but* grateful for what Avalon has done for Venus. The platform Avalon has worked so hard to build for us is appreciated, but things change and people lose silly ideals they once had about an "empire" that is quick to toss you aside, because you are no longer the "little sister". Don't like us being equals? Or what is it? Because I still don't get why you guys are so goddamn angry.

Shouldn't you be proud that the BHA can finally form parties within its own ranks, without having to depend on the Avalon union? I sure as hell am.

Then you have no right to call yourself a legit. GTFO

sounds like illu is doing a good job making us fighting with each others

i have nothing to say

oh yeah im proud

Ask quickstream or Celsius the state of Venus on the 1st FW before Venus lost its will to be legit.

My union hasn't lost it's will to be legit and never will.

You say it's bs when a bot says "I bot because of Avalon".
But you are quick to make Odyssey responsible for these 300 bots.
They are as responsible as you are.

That screenshot is unity on the bots part. What are they united by? Hatred for Avalon and all legits. You can't blame Odyssey for something that is probably the result of your methods.

I'm not against the bot war but I really think the way it was handled is whats responsible for all these people turning against Avalon and legits.

I don't understand why Odyssey is in BHA at all, to be honest. It pisses me off. People have already left Asylum because they didn't want to be in a union with Odyssey, and I was considering it too - but BH is the guild I've always looked up to, and I don't really give a damn about Avalon, since I've never dealt with them. So I don't really know what to do. I don't want to leave my guild, because it's pretty awesome, and I don't want to leave BHA...but I don't want to be in a union with Odyssey either.

typo fixed. not against the "bot war".

I sure hope u do that.
Don't go private over International.

Why shouldn't he?

Server full of legits > Server full of bots and bot acceptors.

Private server means that you're by definition using 3rd party software = not legit. Hypocrites.

cake

the way it was handled had Venus down to almost no active bot guilds. the RP_Bloodline / AA comeback is due to RP rebuilding out of the Odyssey union which was formed for 1 purpose only: "pwn avalon n0000bs".

Find another server in which it was handled to the point where botters were almost compleatly defeated. Just like Odin and Hera, it was the "legits" in the end that fcked it all up. You should read up on the way things ended in those 2 servers. Thats the future of Venus if this BS is not fixed for good.

We should be united as legits but when you post things like the quote below, it really doesn't help the unity. Or when you refuse to listen before making rash decisions and attacking our union.

"lol. with so much dis respect towards my guild by all the fake legits out there I almost dont give a shit anymore.

Avalon is loved and adored whenever we are needed. The minet someone gets the idea that they "might" be stronger then us, they start acting like pricks to us. If the only time we get any respect is when we are needed to save the day, maybe I should let all the cowards get a nice taste of defeat. Would make them think twice next time they feel like huffing and puffing at us."

we know your stupid you dont need to post like a 12yrs old kid every 3post saying cake or cream pie. effing grow up and take care of your kids instead of being a snake and trying to screw up BHA union. I know why you are there.
But SG is blind not to see it.

Call me a hypocrite for washing my hands of the filth. Please. sraSRO, here I come.

Calling me filth how dare you

shatap Axe !

Your union will accept anyone who even hints at being legit. Unable to see the consequence of your actions is your downfall. I bet I could take any guild from my union, ask there leader to leave my union, have them create a union which helps bots, take the fortress from Avalon, then have them disband there union, and they would be able to join BHA with no problems at all.

Half the people in your union are weekend warriors with no intrest in the anti-bot war. Between there influence and your bleeding heart attitude of welcoming all the trash you can gather, your union has become something ugly to look at. Thanks to all false legits, Venus is 2 moves away from check-mate and the end of the "legit" comeback of iSRO.

fly, that's a bit harsh. BHA is a great legit union with a fun atmosphere, as i'm sure Avalon union is. there's only so much u can do against bots, and avalon's been doing their job as big dady pretty well, and because avalon took fortress and have most of the highest legits, that role is thrust upon you. BHA is coming up fast too, and with a decent bunch of dedicated players heading the union, you'll real soon have either 1) a powerful ally, or 2) a powerful rival. whichever it is, the number 1 goal will still be to bitchslap bots to kingdom come. everything else should, and, frankly, needs to come after that.

I don't even know why the fck you guys assume shit so quickly when you don't even know what actually happened.

@quickstream: just stfu. If you're the one that told Avalon about our union chat then **** you to hell. Because Kewtie said NOTHING about not partying with Avalon. Whoever said that to Avalon can stop bullshitting and eat shit.

What really happened was that we were complaining about how illu brought 2 other lvl 80 wizards to ks us, and we couldn't train with 3 lv 80 wizard ksing us because our wizards were too low to ks them back. So we started complaining about the ksings in the union chat. Kewtie heard us and tried to help by asking illusionist why he's ksing us. Then illusionist said he hates avalon so he ksed us (because there were 2 midnight'ers in the party). Then she told us in union chat that he only kses Avalon, not specifically BHA. She never ever mentioned about NOT partying with Avalon, in fact no one did. WitchHazel wasn't even ONLINE at that point. So whoever the fck told Avalon that Witch was talking shit needs to LERN2MAKE UP BETTER STORIES.

Summary: NO ONE IN THE UNION EVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT NOT PARTYING WITH AVALON BECAUSE OF ILLUSIONIST. Blame whoever that told you Avalonians the bullshit. Because it's not true. Either that person wanted to fk our relationship up or he/she just misunderstood the context.

And like Goob said, we haven't stopped partying with Avalon union members even after this drama started.

Please don't call us 'fake legits', 'bot suckers', 'sucking bots dick' or other names when you don't even know what really happened in the first place. You all should find out what really happened, then start the blahblabhlah globals and beefings.

Meh.

I don't see how you can say that BHA is legit when there is a guild leader (WitchHazel) who doesn't care if guild member party with botters, for instance. What happened to zero tolerance against bots?

Fly.


First of all, thank you. Thank you for convincing me to abandon the sinking ship that was and is Xian and start afresh in an environment that i could really be happy. Thank you for the help and support, and for making Venus what it is.


Yes, what it is. If you want to place blame, place it where it belongs. If it is true that Odyssey's former union is the source of RP's current strength, and that they FORMED that union to take you on... why do you think that is? Would they have felt that strongly about steeping up to you if you had treated them with the respect that they felt they deserved? Judging on how you are acting now, i can see why they are and were upset. You are single-minded and bull-headed to a fault. You refuse to even acknowledge the attempt at reason, and instead write us - your biggest ally - off because of what i can only see as some petty bullshit that needs to be buried in the sandbox forever.


Go ahead, write us off. But when you do, you will be dealing such a blow to Venus' legitimacy that it is only a matter of time before the bots turn it into another Xian. Now, when the BHA is finally becoming strong enough to REALLY help you fight, you turn your back on us because of petty, personal grudges, miscommunications based on those grudges, and preconceptions that are not based in any facts but those you choose to believe?


Fine. I love your union. I love the overwhelming majority of its members. Most of them treat us as the same kind of family as we treat each other, and we return that in kind. We are not FAKE legits. We are every bit as against bots as you are, and i for one am FCKING INSULTED that you would insinuate otherwise. I thought you to be a better judge of character than that. I thought you to be more broad-sighted than that. And if nothing else, I thought you to know ME better than that. I WILL NOT BE INTIMIDATED INTO EXPELLING A MEMBER OF MY FAMILY. Not for you, or anyone else. The only people in my union who are unhappy about Odyssey being here are those whose only information and dealings with them are based on YOUR opinions and the hateful shit you have spewn time and time again onto these forums. In stark contrast, since they have joined the union, we have had an even MORE vibrant, active, colorful community than we had already had. And I do NOT turn my back on my friends and allies.


...even if that means we will fall for it.


I don't know what you plan to do, but I am deeply disappointed in the fact that you would be so willing to shun potential soldiers for your cause and sever the ties to the most powerful ally you have as a result. I am sorry, but i will not bend, i will not alter my principles because YOU can't seem to let go of a grudge.


But i will fight the bots with you if you so choose. And i will lead the army of legits i have helped build against them by your side and not think twice. Then again, i will do that without you too. The ball is in your court. We are resolute. I am sorry we are in this place right now.

Congratulations Fly on destroying every bit of respect I had for you in very few posts. I always knew you were arrogant, and didn't mind it at all. Hell, almost all of Avalon is arrogant. Now you're just an arrogant asshole who wont see his own mistakes. Congratulations, if you want to know what's "destroying" the server, it's you and your pig-headedness.


Edit: God damn it people, quit posting before me.

Libertarian? I don't understand wether you're pro BHA or against. As far as I know, Witch has advised his members not to party with bots. and WE ARE LEGIT.

NOT true at all. I don't know who the **** Fly is, I don't know much about Avalon, but I know what WitchHazel has said - for instance that he doesn't care if guild members party with bots. You call that taking a stance regarding bots?