Avalon vs. Epic discussion

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

Prophet Izaach wrote:

So what about that Blade and PurEntity war?

WitchHazel · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 422 **Location:**

Put this behind us. Avalon vs Epic is now in the past. Now its time for Legit vs. Bots. Next Saturday. Same time. The won one battle, but they will not win the War. We will fight them. we will beat them. My guess is they will chicken out. They are pussies by nature. Epic union = fail. RP = fail. Pepsi = fail. Odyssey has beaten Pepsi 2 times in the past. They will bring all the bots on the server. It's time for the Legit players that have owned this server since day one to knock these fckers back into place. Lets destroy them all.

Gronic · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 467 **Location:**

These kinda things make the game fun 2 play :oops:

Alfred · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 1545 **Location:** .se

The day they keep it fair and win, that day is the day you can say you lost.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:18 am

hmm.

too bad.

unfortunately, sro<life, i was a bit *busy* this saturday; first week i was home from college in a month.

Guardia · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1187 **Location:**

Albel, i dont think this is the good time to argue which one is better.

Btw, it's my first HUGE war besides the first 2-3 FW. It was fun but with 4 frames per seconds, I couldnt do much. Wished i had a better computer to handle the graphics.

nightbloom · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 5492 **Location:**

Crumpets wrote:

Kaigar wrote:

I don't see why you should, the agreement you made with them was made null and void when they broke the terms and conditions of the war by de-lvling for extra points, recruiting and using outside buffers. Just out of interest, i'd like to know how many more points they would get per kill for a lvl 89 vs a lvl 90 for being lvl 89, and how much less a 90 gets vs an 89.

But that fact was known well in advance. Nothing stopping Ava from doing the same ;o

And about the buffers ... no offense but both sides had as many buffers. Maybe not at first, but as soon as Ava started to get more .. and evening it up .. the whole argument of "OMG OUTSIDE BUFFERS" .. got voided as you'd say.

I am trying to argue with Fly against disbanding. I dont think that deleveling was cheating, but I do think that bringing in players from 5 different guilds WAS cheating. We knew he wouod have outside buffers and we kinda figured guilds in his union would add in, but he even had guilds OUTSIDE his union join. He had people from other servers come and play the chars of people who had quit and play his alt botted chars. He was still adding people AS we were fighting. blasjr said Epic would play straight when we made the agreement and we accepted on those terms. As far as I am concerned, he broke that agreement.

donkyle · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 941 **Location:**

next time we war i want it in a secret place
cos the ppl from union at the war was pissing me off
they stood in the middle of the war and i couldnt click any1 it was so noobish off them

Gronic · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 467 **Location:**

Epic avg lvl lol.

maykelpachecho · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 49 **Location:**

i dont think that have friends to play your second char is cheating..

Guthix · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 269 **Location:**

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Avalon will disband, when the disband button becomes functional. The fight for venus has just begun and Epic is going to learn the taste of revenge. Everyone got too used to victory being easy and they take for granted the crap we have to put up with just to keep this server safe.

Anyways, if you disband, you're going to just move your characters to AvaIon, which kinda isn't disbanding after all. So I don't see why everyone is getting so worried about it.

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I agree. I signed up to fight epic, not every bot in venus. But the war was not really about epic anyways. It proved that avalon cant take on all the bots by ourselves. As much as legits want to help out on venus, there efforts are slowed down or even cancled out of the lack of leadership outside of Avalon.

Let this be a wake up call for the rest of venus. YOU will have to show up for fw and guard it. YOU will have to answer the call of the trade runs being robbed. YOU will have to show up at south gate and slaughter the bots when they kill the low levels.

Now I mean, Fly, you said this defeat proved that Avalon couldn't hold against all the botters on Venus. Now that's true, Avalon alone can't stand against all the botters (and yet it was close). Don't forget you got all the other guilds in your union + BHA community to fight on your side at FW. And the botters can't do shit against the whole legit community together, if they almost fail to defeat avalon alone already :roll:

No one can be perfect and win at everything at anytime. You lost 1 guild war out of countless wins against botter guilds that outnumbered you by far. So yea, cheer up and keep up the good work man :wink:

the_wicked · **Posted:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:37 am

maykelpachecho wrote:

i dont think that have friends to play your second char is cheating..

Neither do I. Unfortunately, 10-15 ppl in the war were from guilds like TURK_EMPIRES and such. Not even in the WWRU union.

[SD]Kratos · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 4787 **Location:**

maykelpachecho wrote:

i dont think that have friends to play your second char is cheating..

IT wouldn't be cheating if all these chars weren't botted.

V0rt3x · **Posted:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:43 pm

nightbloom wrote:

Crumpets wrote:

Kaigar wrote:

I don't see why you should, the agreement you made with them was made null and void when they broke the terms and conditions of the war by de-lvling for extra points, recruiting and using outside buffers. Just out of interest, i'd like to know how many more points they would get per kill for a lvl 89 vs a lvl 90 for being lvl 89, and how much less a 90 gets vs an 89.

But that fact was known well in advance. Nothing stopping Ava from doing the same ;o

And about the buffers ... no offense but both sides had as many buffers. Maybe not at first, but as soon as Ava started to get more .. and evening it up .. the whole argument of "OMG OUTSIDE BUFFERS" .. got voided as you'd say.

I am trying to argue with Fly against disbanding. I dont think that deleveling was cheating, but I do think that bringing in players from 5 different guilds WAS cheating. We knew he wouod have outside buffers and we kinda figured guilds in his union would add in, but he even had guilds OUTSIDE his union join. He had people from other servers come and play the chars of people who had quit and play his alt botted chars. He was still adding people AS we were fighting. blasjr said Epic would play straight when we made the agreement and we accepted on those terms. As far as I am concerned, he broke that agreement.

Blasjr is not the guild leader. a member can not set rules for a war.
Recruiting is okay but ppl see it as unfair but its still guild vs guild and as i recall Avalon said many times that 1 good euro guild beats a union.And you guys forget that they used zerk scrolls also to win.

and if you guys wouldnt complain if you won abdwhy dont cancel the wars if some1 is braking the rules bitching after isnt a option because you were their accepting it the whole war.

Zanam · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 139 **Location:**

ofy1993 wrote:

And about foudre saying "oh noes I don't cheat, I just wrote the answers on a paper before the test" No, it's not like that. It's like if your gonna redo the same test, it's like memorizing the answers on your head. It's somehow cheating and somehow a technique.

I said that and you must have one stupid ass of a Professor for him to give u the same damned test

nightbloom · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 5492 **Location:**

V0rt3x wrote:

Blasjr is not the guild leader. a member can not set rules for a war.
Recruiting is okay but ppl see it as unfair but its still guild vs guild and as i recall Avalon said many times that 1 good euro guild beats a union.And you guys forget that they used zerk scrolls also to win.

and if you guys wouldnt complain if you won abdwhy dont cancel the wars if some1 is braking the rules bitching after isnt a option because you were their accepting it the whole war.

Well then, because blasjr isnt the leader and he made the deal, then the whole thing is null and void cause he is the ONLY one that proposed the thing. Thanks for clearing that up.

And you must have fought many wars. You cant "cancel" it.

V0rt3x · **Posted:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:16 pm

nightbloom wrote:

V0rt3x wrote:

Blasjr is not the guild leader. a member can not set rules for a war.
Recruiting is okay but ppl see it as unfair but its still guild vs guild and as i recall Avalon said many times that 1 good euro guild beats a union.And you guys forget that they used zerk scrolls also to win.

and if you guys wouldnt complain if you won abdwhy dont cancel the wars if some1 is braking the rules bitching after isnt a option because you were their accepting it the whole war.

Well then, because blasjr isnt the leader and he made the deal, then the whole thing is null and void cause he is the ONLY one that proposed the thing. Thanks for clearing that up.

And you must have fought many wars. You cant "cancel" it.

Dont see any other terms losing is enough
you can cancel the war invite before it starts by pressing confirm you agree.

Clam · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 157 **Location:**

his skills are going off without him pressing buttons on that screenie ban please

V0rt3x · **Posted:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:27 pm

Clam wrote:

his skills are going off without him pressing buttons on that screenie ban please

Screeny is not mine look on the forum serveral persons posted it.
When you accuse some1 then do it on the right person

Twist · **Posted:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:31 pm

V0rt3x wrote:

Clam wrote:

his skills are going off without him pressing buttons on that screenie ban please

Screeny is not mine look on the forum serveral persons posted it.
When you accuse some1 then do it on the right person

Learn English, stop trying make yourself look like legend on your vids, your not even near of being a legend, so shut up and crawl back to your hole.You know nothing.

AngloKnight · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 1504 **Location:**

winning 2k points higher is nothing... you got those 2k points in the last 5mins... not to mention that Avalon wasn't in full power... sooo basically, I don't consider it a defeat.. hey, think it the other way, if Avalon had won the war 2k points higher, I wouldn't have been proud of such a win... soooo, all in all, I don't care about wot happened, neither many of us... yeah it hurts, but that makes us equal... I'd be glad if they accept another war in a secret place with less crowds... I don' think they have the balls to do it huh??? We're still the best and strongest stand alone guild in Venus... and WE WILL CONTINUE MAKING BOTS LIVES HARDER THAN BEFORE.... I'm almost lvl90, my vids will be on sooner or later, pwning their big heads....

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

Knuckles X wrote:

That they've downgraded some characters, okay. That ain't cheating. But raveling up every single character that wasn't part of the botter unions is the reason why I think Avalon should stay. And another reason why it should stay: They're just botters. They don't deserve Avalon being disbanded

Agreed. Epic cheated in about every way they could think of, and still only ended up winning by a small margin, and that marginal win was gained in the last 5 minutes of the war.

It ended up not being Avalon vs. Epic, but Avalon vs. Epic and all of Epic's friends and supporters. They broke the agreement, so the agreement is null and void. One small defeat for Avalon guild, but the war is not over.

V0rt3x · **Posted:** Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:19 pm

Twist wrote:

V0rt3x wrote:

Clam wrote:

his skills are going off without him pressing buttons on that screenie ban please

Screeny is not mine look on the forum serveral persons posted it.
When you accuse some1 then do it on the right person

Learn English, stop trying make yourself look like legend on your vids, your not even near of being a legend, so shut up and crawl back to your hole.You know nothing.

stop trying TO make yourself look like legend on your vids,

Learn Eglish also and while your at it learn Dutch to.

Clam · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 157 **Location:**

gz on all the unlegits that joined a guild and made its average lvl 85 (not to metion the outside buffers) that can barely beat a guild with a average lvl of 74 gz!

Z3rgling · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 4 **Location:** Canada

I like how this forum is supposedly "bot supporting" free yet SOME people want Fly to leave Venus because of the Guild War Terms... Not bot supporting huh... Where are all the admins?

t0rch · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 759 **Location:** ...

Z3rgling wrote:

I like how this forum is supposedly "bot supporting" free yet SOME people want Fly to leave Venus because of the Guild War Terms... Not bot supporting huh... Where are all the admins?

You're new here, you'll learn eventually :wink:

Fly · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 2114 **Location:**

t0rch wrote:

Z3rgling wrote:

I like how this forum is supposedly "bot supporting" free yet SOME people want Fly to leave Venus because of the Guild War Terms... Not bot supporting huh... Where are all the admins?

You're new here, you'll learn eventually :wink:

lololol dick in the mouth

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

t0rch wrote:

Z3rgling wrote:

I like how this forum is supposedly 2]"bot supporting" free yet SOME people want Fly to leave Venus because of the Guild War Terms... Not bot supporting huh... 1]Where are all the admins?

You're new here, you'll learn eventually :wink:

t0rch · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 759 **Location:** ...

Barotix wrote:

t0rch wrote:

Z3rgling wrote:

I like how this forum is supposedly 2]"bot supporting" free yet SOME people want Fly to leave Venus because of the Guild War Terms... Not bot supporting huh... 1]Where are all the admins?

You're new here, you'll learn eventually :wink:

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Z3rgling · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 4 **Location:** Canada

I hope SRF isn't another Joymax where they don't care of the bots =/ I mean its an interesting topic we have raised here... But its not really the 'bot supporters' business to venture in here

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