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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:21 pm 
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No need to worry unless the leaders of BHA (or any other union for that matter) become less active than I am. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
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All of you guys can seriously, suck my balls :!:


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All of you guys can seriously, suck my balls :!:


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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
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Looks like a quote party.

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No, I'm not one of the anti-BHA guys, there's plenty of people in there that deserve respect, but 80% of their capped people don't. They quit and bitch at us.


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No, I'm not one of the anti-BHA guys, there's plenty of people in there that deserve respect, but 80% of their capped people don't. They quit and bitch at us.


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No, I'm not one of the anti-BHA guys, there's plenty of people in there that deserve respect, but 80% of their capped people don't. They quit and bitch at us.

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
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Well it wouldn't be the first time BHA leaders vanished. Last time it happened they went from xian to venus.

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Well it wouldn't be the first time BHA leaders vanished. Last time it happened they went from xian to venus.
come back to venus noop

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
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Venus is dying. I can guess the reason, could be 50% correct.

The only fun in this game is the PVP part. But it turns out that players spend 90% of their play time for hunting, 10% dedicated to PVP is too few. Job war, pvp, active trade run are nearly non-existant. So what's the point to spend almost all your time to grind, to reach 90 fast, to be strong? What's next? To fight who if none pvp?
The only way to keep this game alive is to create more job war.

That's the first reason. The second reason is the goal of Venus server. It's been promised that it will be a server for legit. That's why from the beginning till now, there's only a war legit VS bot. As the bots weakened the peace in Venus increases. Legit became too strong. Only 8/8 party could beat all 20 bots out there. The bots then got bored and gave up.
And when a world become peaceful, it also generated the boredom. Legits are forced to join the Confederation, since they don't want their life to be treat as in hell. When they are in Confederation, they are friends with other guilds. Friends can't fight each other so there isn't any guild war. Even if there is, it's just a friendly guild war, there is no real fight, no rob each other...
If any guild can keep at rate 1 trade run per day, 3 guild wars per week. There will be no such thing as boredom exist.

The life of the game is in players' hands. If players don't even know what cause it dying, can't expect them to keep it alive.


I only tell my opinion /don't flame
I know some of you are gonna say "you don't play in Venus, so gtfo"
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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
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Venus is dying.



/fail. Didn't bother reading rest.

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
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That's one of the problems in the Confederation. There are those, mostly new people, who take it as one encompassing society where you can hold each others hands all the time. Well, it's not - only against bots we should help each other, other than that, you can do whatever you want.

Of course, there are rivalries between guilds in the Confederation - it's just kept under the radar. There's a deep grudge between Avalon and BHA but it has been kept from each other lately. There's hardly any conflict between legits that can stir any sort of motivation, other than cases where you don't know who you are against with, such as in job wars.

On top of that, add in the recent management hiatus from Blade and BHA. People will set aside rivalries and focus on the internal conflict. Now, I'm not saying that's bad. It's just that the help that nonunions give to others might come across as a lasting peace sign.


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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
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Venus is dying. I can guess the reason, could be 50% correct.

The only fun in this game is the PVP part. But it turns out that players spend 90% of their play time for hunting, 10% dedicated to PVP is too few. Job war, pvp, active trade run are nearly non-existant. So what's the point to spend almost all your time to grind, to reach 90 fast, to be strong? What's next? To fight who if none pvp?
The only way to keep this game alive is to create more job war.

That's the first reason. The second reason is the goal of Venus server. It's been promised that it will be a server for legit. That's why from the beginning till now, there's only a war legit VS bot. As the bots weakened the peace in Venus increases. Legit became too strong. Only 8/8 party could beat all 20 bots out there. The bots then got bored and gave up.
And when a world become peaceful, it also generated the boredom. Legits are forced to join the Confederation, since they don't want their life to be treat as in hell. When they are in Confederation, they are friends with other guilds. Friends can't fight each other so there isn't any guild war. Even if there is, it's just a friendly guild war, there is no real fight, no rob each other...
If any guild can keep at rate 1 trade run per day, 3 guild wars per week. There will be no such thing as boredom exist.

The life of the game is in players' hands. If players don't even know what cause it dying, can't expect them to keep it alive.


I only tell my opinion /don't flame
I know some of you are gonna say "you don't play in Venus, so gtfo"
I know you too much :D


DING DING DING omfg ur right. I been saying that since day one. I finally agree with u. High five(pauses in air) :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
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Argonaut you're so stupid every time you answer something you post nonsense and useless stuff, i doubt you didn't wanted to read i think it is more you can't comprehend what NuclearSilo wrote down lol.

I declare you Bump lord, cause that's all you do haha.

On Topic: This is the 1st time i have to agree With NuclearSilo, and also the guy that said Legits needs more rivalry between them not like the time BHA tried to attack fort and were accused of BOT supporters LOL.

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Argonaut you're so stupid every time you answer something you post nonsense and useless stuff, i doubt you didn't wanted to read i think it is more you can't comprehend what NuclearSilo wrote down lol.

I declare you Bump lord, cause that's all you do haha.

On Topic: This is the 1st time i have to agree With NuclearSilo, and also the guy that said Legits needs more rivalry between them not like the time BHA tried to attack fort and were accused of BOT supporters LOL.




The world is ending. Now let me explain to you....


I don't think so. I don't listen to crazy theories that are based on bullshit. If you want to listen to every bum on the street who thinks the world is ending, thats your problem.

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
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NuclearSilo wrote:
Venus is dying. I can guess the reason, could be 50% correct.

The only fun in this game is the PVP part. But it turns out that players spend 90% of their play time for hunting, 10% dedicated to PVP is too few. Job war, pvp, active trade run are nearly non-existant. So what's the point to spend almost all your time to grind, to reach 90 fast, to be strong? What's next? To fight who if none pvp?
The only way to keep this game alive is to create more job war.

That's the first reason. The second reason is the goal of Venus server. It's been promised that it will be a server for legit. That's why from the beginning till now, there's only a war legit VS bot. As the bots weakened the peace in Venus increases. Legit became too strong. Only 8/8 party could beat all 20 bots out there. The bots then got bored and gave up.
And when a world become peaceful, it also generated the boredom. Legits are forced to join the Confederation, since they don't want their life to be treat as in hell. When they are in Confederation, they are friends with other guilds. Friends can't fight each other so there isn't any guild war. Even if there is, it's just a friendly guild war, there is no real fight, no rob each other...
If any guild can keep at rate 1 trade run per day, 3 guild wars per week. There will be no such thing as boredom exist.

The life of the game is in players' hands. If players don't even know what cause it dying, can't expect them to keep it alive.


I only tell my opinion /don't flame
I know some of you are gonna say "you don't play in Venus, so gtfo"
I know you too much :D


Why you just don't quit Silkroad Forums or game (If you actually playing) for a good ! You know why !? You will help people a lot !

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
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NuclearSilo wrote:
Venus is dying. I can guess the reason, could be 50% correct.

The only fun in this game is the PVP part. But it turns out that players spend 90% of their play time for hunting, 10% dedicated to PVP is too few. Job war, pvp, active trade run are nearly non-existant. So what's the point to spend almost all your time to grind, to reach 90 fast, to be strong? What's next? To fight who if none pvp?
The only way to keep this game alive is to create more job war.

That's the first reason. The second reason is the goal of Venus server. It's been promised that it will be a server for legit. That's why from the beginning till now, there's only a war legit VS bot. As the bots weakened the peace in Venus increases. Legit became too strong. Only 8/8 party could beat all 20 bots out there. The bots then got bored and gave up.
And when a world become peaceful, it also generated the boredom. Legits are forced to join the Confederation, since they don't want their life to be treat as in hell. When they are in Confederation, they are friends with other guilds. Friends can't fight each other so there isn't any guild war. Even if there is, it's just a friendly guild war, there is no real fight, no rob each other...
If any guild can keep at rate 1 trade run per day, 3 guild wars per week. There will be no such thing as boredom exist.

The life of the game is in players' hands. If players don't even know what cause it dying, can't expect them to keep it alive.


I only tell my opinion /don't flame
I know some of you are gonna say "you don't play in Venus, so gtfo"
I know you too much :D



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Difficulty: Moderately challenging
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Step1
Bring the horse to a complete stop.
Step2
Holding the reins in your left hand, put both hands on the saddle pommel or on the horse's neck.
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Stand up in the stirrups.
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Swing your right leg over the horse's rump. As you bring your leg over, move your right hand from the pommel to the cantle, or back of the saddle.
Step5
Pause while balancing on your hands, and kick your left foot free of the stirrup iron.
Step6
Push lightly away from the horse and drop to the ground.
Step7
Slide the stirrup irons up the back strap of the stirrups, and tuck the loose ends into the irons.



Just replace horse with Death2All and you'll be all set. :)

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
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NuclearSilo wrote:
Venus is dying. I can guess the reason, could be 50% correct.

The only fun in this game is the PVP part. But it turns out that players spend 90% of their play time for hunting, 10% dedicated to PVP is too few. Job war, pvp, active trade run are nearly non-existant. So what's the point to spend almost all your time to grind, to reach 90 fast, to be strong? What's next? To fight who if none pvp?
The only way to keep this game alive is to create more job war.

That's the first reason. The second reason is the goal of Venus server. It's been promised that it will be a server for legit. That's why from the beginning till now, there's only a war legit VS bot. As the bots weakened the peace in Venus increases. Legit became too strong. Only 8/8 party could beat all 20 bots out there. The bots then got bored and gave up.
And when a world become peaceful, it also generated the boredom. Legits are forced to join the Confederation, since they don't want their life to be treat as in hell. When they are in Confederation, they are friends with other guilds. Friends can't fight each other so there isn't any guild war. Even if there is, it's just a friendly guild war, there is no real fight, no rob each other...
If any guild can keep at rate 1 trade run per day, 3 guild wars per week. There will be no such thing as boredom exist.

The life of the game is in players' hands. If players don't even know what cause it dying, can't expect them to keep it alive.


I only tell my opinion /don't flame
I know some of you are gonna say "you don't play in Venus, so gtfo"
I know you too much :D



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Difficulty: Moderately challenging
Things You’ll Need:

* Horses
* Horse Reins
* Riding Boots
* Riding Helmets
* Riding Tack

Step1
Bring the horse to a complete stop.
Step2
Holding the reins in your left hand, put both hands on the saddle pommel or on the horse's neck.
Step3
Stand up in the stirrups.
Step4
Swing your right leg over the horse's rump. As you bring your leg over, move your right hand from the pommel to the cantle, or back of the saddle.
Step5
Pause while balancing on your hands, and kick your left foot free of the stirrup iron.
Step6
Push lightly away from the horse and drop to the ground.
Step7
Slide the stirrup irons up the back strap of the stirrups, and tuck the loose ends into the irons.



Just replace horse with Death2All and you'll be all set. :)


LOL

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:29 am 
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NuclearSilo wrote:
Venus is dying. I can guess the reason, could be 50% correct.

The only fun in this game is the PVP part. But it turns out that players spend 90% of their play time for hunting, 10% dedicated to PVP is too few. Job war, pvp, active trade run are nearly non-existant....

That's the first reason. The second reason is the goal of Venus server. It's been promised that it will be a server for legit. That's why from the beginning till now, there's only a war legit VS bot....

I only tell my opinion /don't flame
I know some of you are gonna say "you don't play in Venus, so gtfo"
I know you too much :D


Ok I'll say it. You don't play in Venus, but I'm not saying gtfo. You have a valid point about friendly guild wars and not wanting to rob friends in a trade run, but how do you even know that is occurring in Venus if you don't even play the server?

I'm probably the most inactive player in Venus. However, almost every time I log in, I go out Samakrand south gate and see several or many people PVPing. A majority of the time, I see people in union at least mentioning a trade run or two, plus occasionally someone globalling about it.

Granted, trade runs could be more frequent, but I highly doubt they only happen when I log in.

Why do so many people seem to keep basically saying that botters make this game fun, that if they leave the server it will be boring?

Legits in the server still party together. They still hunt uniques together. They still job together. I guess one thing that could help Venus (well really ANY server) is for people to get over the whole "friends" thing and fight each other. Is it so wrong to rob a guildmate in a trade run? How about a unionmate? With the job alias system, you're not supposed to even know who the other person is. With the help of things like rev6, it's easy to find out, but that's not really supposed to exist.

Even with my inactivity in Venus, I see plenty of jobbing. I think it would increase even more if people would realize the job system is hunter vs thief vs trader, and not guild vs guild or union vs union.

Of course there's no harm in doing a union trade run, but there should also be no harm in going against each other.

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Ok I'll say it. You don't play in Venus, but I'm not saying gtfo. You have a valid point about friendly guild wars and not wanting to rob friends in a trade run, but how do you even know that is occurring in Venus if you don't even play the server?

I only guess, basing on what ppl said.
Moreover, i logged in a couple of time to check. The server is quite dead at daytime. No one in DW, a several noobs pvp in Samarkan...

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Legits in the server still party together. They still hunt uniques together. They still job together. I guess one thing that could help Venus (well really ANY server) is for people to get over the whole "friends" thing and fight each other

It's because they're always together, there is no such thing as concurrent exists.


@Argaunot: you are an idiot. I checked your profile. In your recent posts, the only thing you could reply is 3-4 words and a smilies, i see none constructive post. Or you agree or you don't agree but post your opinion to explain or you don't post, that's all.

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@Argaunot: you are an idiot. I checked your profile. In your recent posts, the only thing you could reply is 3-4 words and a smilies, i see none constructive post. Or you agree or you don't agree but post your opinion to explain or you don't post, that's all.


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Those several noobs beat botters in skill by far.

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I only guess, basing on what ppl said.
Moreover, i logged in a couple of time to check. The server is quite dead at daytime. No one in DW, a several noobs pvp in Samarkan...


I'll assume during the day a lot of people work or go to school. Of course the server will be more lively in the evenings. I've gone to donwhang several times and have seen plenty of people in town and even some PVPing, but most of that is in Samarkand. Does it really matter if the Samarkand PVPers are noob (low level) or not? There's activity.

When I go out grinding (mind you I'm only lvl 36) I always see other people grinding. Sometimes it's bots, sometimes it's actual people. I always see union messages going out about slots opening in parties at wing tribes or chasers or the like. So people ARE out there. :)

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Ok I'll say it. You don't play in Venus, but I'm not saying gtfo. You have a valid point about friendly guild wars and not wanting to rob friends in a trade run, but how do you even know that is occurring in Venus if you don't even play the server?

I only guess, basing on what ppl said.
Moreover, i logged in a couple of time to check. The server is quite dead at daytime. No one in DW, a several noobs pvp in Samarkan...

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Legits in the server still party together. They still hunt uniques together. They still job together. I guess one thing that could help Venus (well really ANY server) is for people to get over the whole "friends" thing and fight each other

It's because they're always together, there is no such thing as concurrent exists.


@Argaunot: you are an idiot. I checked your profile. In your recent posts, the only thing you could reply is 3-4 words and a smilies, i see none constructive post. Or you agree or you don't agree but post your opinion to explain or you don't post, that's all.


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^ See? I wasn't wrong: 3 words, 2 smilies


ORLY? :shock: I did not know this.

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Wow one of the first times nuclears said something i agree with. And argo stop thinking Venus is some dream server.. yes its good, but its not perfect. He's completely right about the PVP.


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Wow one of the first times nuclears said something i agree with. And argo stop thinking Venus is some dream server.. yes its good, but its not perfect. He's completely right about the PVP.


Personally, I think one of the problems with PVPing is everyone seems to want to do it in the same place, regardless of level. You have lvl 20s PVPing next to lvl 90s. Why does everyone have to PVP at Samarkand south, or Donwhang/Jangan south before the euro update?

I think there are plenty of people at lower levels who would be interested in PVPing, but they end up getting hammered to the ground by all of the high levels.

Guild wars are one thing, level doesn't matter, but it's hard for lower level players to PVP when some 90 wizard decides to drop an AOE nuke on them for fun.

Seems we're getting a bit off topic. Isn't this supposed to be about what happened to BlackHand?

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Venus is dying thats whats happening


No, BHA died. Fable union is basically replacing Blade union. Avalon union strong as they've always been. There's a new wave of people on chasers, which means a new wave of people capping. Nobody is dying.


Nah SRO is just slowly dieing, has been for quite a while.. just now its affecting venus.


WDF? check out Rev6 sometime before you make up some ignorant post.

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:10 pm 
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@NuclearSilo

I suggest you to gtfo. You dont belong to venus nor this section :D
And it is fun to read comments like Argonuts, if there was more people like nuclear on this forum it would die pretty fast cuz of boredness


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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:48 pm 
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if there was more people like nuclear on this forum it would die pretty fast cuz of boredness

That's what made me unique. Ppl like you and Argonaut i see everywhere everyday lulz
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Moreover, Venus is a good, legit server. So i think I have the right to understand, discover it first before joining it. Right?

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:59 pm 
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We cant help it that we enjoy life :D
you may be unique but the fact remains ^.^
Just giving my honest opinion ;) im not going continue with this, this goes way off topic


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 Post subject: Re: What happened to BH?
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i didn't read all 4 pages, just the first one. i didn't know this was here or i'd have posted earlier. i tend to stay out of this section because drama gives me hives.

no, i am not quitting SRO. yes, i am more inactive atm, but mostly because i work a commission-based retail job and it's the holidays. yes, i am playing WoW. no, i am not abandoning the BHA.


but it's not because i still love this game the way i used to. i don't. i have stayed with SRO for over 3 years because of the community of people that the BHA has become. i moved from Xian to Venus because i couldn't stand the bots. now i am disgusted with venus because i can't stand some of the legits. but it is the BHA, the family, that keeps me from ever giving up on SRO forever.

true, BHA has suffered huge losses to its higher-lvl core. many have moved servers, changed games, or dropped off the face of the earth completely. but for as long as there is a BHA on Venus, i will be there to help us out of this slump however i can.

locking this; trust me, we're working on it.

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