North Korea ready for combat

Fiction · **Posted:** Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:56 pm

Mayumi wrote:

@Penfold

You forgot one thing, usa and britain have made a pack against WMD so if america gets involved so will Britain, France, Germany, and even Canada, so usa is not alone against NK China Japan, just wanted to correct that post.

Yup that's it. Only one thing. :roll:

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

Fiction wrote:

A surveying drone is not the same as a drone strike on a country... Stop being dumb, or trolling-- whatever you kids are calling it these days to keep from looking like an idiot. :roll:

a surveying drone or not... it was a military drone, it didnt have Farking google street view written on the side of it. If you can get a reconnasence drone that close, you can get a stealth bomber that close. america and iran know it wasnt going to bomb iran but it could have been sighting targets to bomb.

also UK france germany and canada will join, not necessarily because of nukes but because we are close allies to america and we surprisingly care about the american people (even if we say we dont sometimes) but also isnt it part of nato or something that we have to get involved if called upon?

but i mean... france is useless, they could have more nukes then the world and still lose a war.
and germany.... i think my grandad made sure that they werent going to war with another country soon. Canada is more british then british people are. I was in canada when the queens mother died and i saw people crying in paper shops 0.0

Mayumi · **Posted:** Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:05 pm

Fiction wrote:

Mayumi wrote:

@Penfold

You forgot one thing, usa and britain have made a pack against WMD so if america gets involved so will Britain, France, Germany, and even Canada, so usa is not alone against NK China Japan, just wanted to correct that post.

Yup that's it. Only one thing. :roll:

LOL

Fiction · **Posted:** Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:15 pm

penfold1992 wrote:

Fiction wrote:

A surveying drone is not the same as a drone strike on a country... Stop being dumb, or trolling-- whatever you kids are calling it these days to keep from looking like an idiot. :roll:

a surveying drone or not... it was a military drone, it didnt have Farking google street view written on the side of it. If you can get a reconnasence drone that close, you can get a stealth bomber that close. america and iran know it wasnt going to bomb iran but it could have been sighting targets to bomb.

also UK france germany and canada will join, not necessarily because of nukes but because we are close allies to america and we surprisingly care about the american people (even if we say we dont sometimes) but also isnt it part of nato or something that we have to get involved if called upon?

but i mean... france is useless, they could have more nukes then the world and still lose a war.
and germany.... i think my grandad made sure that they werent going to war with another country soon. Canada is more british then british people are. I was in canada when the queens mother died and i saw people crying in paper shops 0.0

LMAO More "Trolling" I'm pretty sure France has won the most wars of any country in modern times... and the rest of what you said was just as ignorant...

One does not simply troll endlessly.. At some point this has to be your own stupidity screaming out.

Mayumi · **Posted:** Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:42 pm

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"also UK france germany and canada will join, not necessarily because of nukes but because we are close allies to america and we surprisingly care about the american people (even if we say we dont sometimes) but also isnt it part of nato or something that we have to get involved if called upon?"

Your wrong, if usa goes into conflict britain will be involved from the start, just like all other american conflicts this passed decade.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

Mayumi wrote:

:Quote

"also UK france germany and canada will join, not necessarily because of nukes but because we are close allies to america and we surprisingly care about the american people (even if we say we dont sometimes) but also isnt it part of nato or something that we have to get involved if called upon?"

Your wrong, if usa goes into conflict britain will be involved from the start, just like all other american conflicts this passed decade.

did you read what i said or just respond assuming i said that britain wont be involved?
i think there is a legal reason for britain to get involved, not just because we decide to. I think there is a ruling from nato to say a country must step up if called upon by nato, thats why the UK sent help to libya.

Fiction just hates me because i think outside of his "America is better then everyone everything and everywhere and everything about america is perfect" ideology

Avalanche · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 3606 **Location:**

Quote:

North Korea said on Saturday that it was entering a "state of war" with South Korea, following a call to arms by the country's young leader Kim Jong Un and days of increasingly belligerent rhetoric from the isolated state.
The North's official news agency KCNA published the joint statement issued by the government, political parties and other organizations.
"From this time on, the North-South relations will be entering a state of war and all issues raised between the North and the South will be handled accordingly," it said.
The statement also warned that if the U.S. and South Korea carried out a pre-emptive attack, the conflict "will not be limited to a local war, but develop into an all-out war, a nuclear war."

Read more here.

Fiction · **Posted:** Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:29 pm

Fiction wrote:

penfold1992 wrote:

but i mean... france is useless, they could have more nukes then the world and still lose a war.
and germany.... i think my grandad made sure that they werent going to war with another country soon. Canada is more british then british people are. I was in canada when the queens mother died and i saw people crying in paper shops 0.0

LMAO More "Trolling" I'm pretty sure France has won the most wars of any country in modern times... and the rest of what you said was just as ignorant...

One does not simply troll endlessly.. At some point this has to be your own stupidity screaming out.

... Not to mention Canada has a huge French influence, being that it was settled by the French...

penfold1992 wrote:

Fiction just hates me because i think outside of his "America is better then everyone everything and everywhere and everything about america is perfect" ideology

NAILED IT!..

Oh wait.. No, if anything I dislike your post because they are stupid. I probably wouldn't mind hanging out with you irl, just like I don't mind hanging out with other ppl that are ignorant about a lot of these topics. The difference is, those ppl don't run their mouth about shit they don't know. If they do, they look like a jackass, and depending on how much of an asshole I'm feeling like being, I'd call them out on it too, for a good laugh.

As I've said plenty of times, I'm a libertarian, I don't think the USA is perfect or that it knows best... If anything I'd be against most the shit that goes on here. Authoritarian is at the other end of the scale from Libertarian, buddy. :palm:

Anyways, If NK did do anything, it's not like watching the history channel where WWI, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam can take place in an afternoon. There will be plenty of preparation on both sides after the initial attack and more than likely NK's leaders will be force to step down or face being invaded. Which would undoubtedly be their surrender. NK troops have nothing in the way of real combat experience compared to American military troops and leaders. They won't be making the same mistakes they made in the Middle East.(It won't be another Vietnam) As for who would get the land. The Korean ppl of course, but we won't be nation building.(Stupid idea... lol and "Democracy")

0l3n · **Posted:** Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:35 pm

penfold1992 wrote:

Fiction just hates me because i think outside of his "America is better then everyone everything and everywhere and everything about america is perfect" ideology

Don't think it has anything to do with being american, I'm swedish and I hate you too.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

Fiction wrote:

words

I wouldnt hang out with you.
im a nerd and never leave my house... "hanging out" means talking on skype... thats my social life.

but if you think america's drone entering iran was just "an accident" and to assume something more is dumb? youve been brainwashed im afraid.

oh and to Ol3n, i dont think anyone likes me just that people have different reasons

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

Kim Jong Un has had too much luck playing Geopolitical Simulator.

But people shouldn't underestimate North Korea though.

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Fun fact: Japan doesn't even have a military. The United States is it's military.

And, I also doubt China would ever fight the U.S. Why? Because we're their biggest market. It makes no economical sense for them to attack the U.S.

Plus, even though China has backed NK in the past, recently even China has been telling NK to calm down.

So much for China, Japan, and NK vs Murica.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

Tasdik wrote:

Fun fact: Japan doesn't even have a military. The United States is it's military.

And, I also doubt China would ever fight the U.S. Why? Because we're their biggest market. It makes no economical sense for them to attack the U.S.

Plus, even though China has backed NK in the past, recently even China has been telling NK to calm down.

So much for China, Japan, and NK vs Murica.

if china fought US and won, there would be no US market. if you remove US from the global economy money would crash and need to be rebuilt somehow... its not china that would suffer against everyone else' economy its everyone suffering!

I dont think any would "team up" to fight against the US but rather... hit the US as individuals, that would more likely be the case anyway even though that is very slim. i just wanted to make it clear that its more likely to be japan vs america, china vs america and nk vs america.

actually... what do other people think would happen if america suddenly disappeared? what would happen to the global economy, global security etc?

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

The last time three nations tried to attack the U.S. without organizing with one another, we kicked the crap out of Italy, Germany, and Japan.

I'd be highly amused if someone tried to pull that stupid move again.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

indeed, and you didnt need to kick the crap out of anyone after teh nukes, fear factor kicks in and people start to realise dat dumb decision

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

penfold1992 wrote:

indeed, and you didnt need to kick the crap out of anyone after teh nukes, fear factor kicks in and people start to realise dat dumb decision

You do realized we nuked Japan after we had basically already beaten both Italy and Germany, right? Since, after all, the whole plan was to save fighting the Japanese till after we had dealt with the Germans and Italians...?

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

penfold1992 wrote:

Tasdik wrote:

Fun fact: Japan doesn't even have a military. The United States is it's military.

And, I also doubt China would ever fight the U.S. Why? Because we're their biggest market. It makes no economical sense for them to attack the U.S.

Plus, even though China has backed NK in the past, recently even China has been telling NK to calm down.

So much for China, Japan, and NK vs Murica.

if china fought US and won, there would be no US market. if you remove US from the global economy money would crash and need to be rebuilt somehow... its not china that would suffer against everyone else' economy its everyone suffering!

I dont think any would "team up" to fight against the US but rather... hit the US as individuals, that would more likely be the case anyway even though that is very slim. i just wanted to make it clear that its more likely to be japan vs america, china vs america and nk vs america.

actually... what do other people think would happen if america suddenly disappeared? what would happen to the global economy, global security etc?

Umm debt free countries.....Countries get to keep their resources for themselves....No more super power nation thinking it should be the world's police.....It would be a celebration...

Bartic · **Posted:** Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:29 am

Tasdik wrote:

penfold1992 wrote:

indeed, and you didnt need to kick the crap out of anyone after teh nukes, fear factor kicks in and people start to realise dat dumb decision

You do realized we nuked Japan after we had basically already beaten both Italy and Germany, right? Since, after all, the whole plan was to save fighting the Japanese till after we had dealt with the Germans and Italians...?

I seriously doubt that US won the WW2 alone. So, there was no "Italy, Germany and Japan" teaming up against US only.

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

^Yeah, because the US teamed up with the UK and the communists.

_Dutchy_ · **Posted:** Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:56 pm

Tasdik wrote:

Fun fact: Japan doesn't even have a military. The United States is it's military.

And, I also doubt China would ever fight the U.S. Why? Because we're their biggest market. It makes no economical sense for them to attack the U.S.

Plus, even though China has backed NK in the past, recently even China has been telling NK to calm down.

So much for China, Japan, and NK vs Murica.

Ehh, Japan has a standing army of around 250.000 soldiers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Self-Defense_Forces

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

Bartic wrote:

I seriously doubt that US won the WW2 alone. So, there was no "Italy, Germany and Japan" teaming up against US only.

they didnt, germany had surrendered before the nukes but the nukes just stopped anyone else having ideas of using the already bruised at battered european countries to launch a strike.

lots of americans think they won the war with the nukes but it was more like a final statement from america to say enough was enough, everyone was done with war (for now)

Aventus · **Posted:** Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:09 pm

Penfold, you think Americans think we won the war with nukes we know it was basically a way to shut the war down completely.

Bartic · **Posted:** Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:44 pm

penfold1992 wrote:

Bartic wrote:

I seriously doubt that US won the WW2 alone. So, there was no "Italy, Germany and Japan" teaming up against US only.

they didnt, germany had surrendered before the nukes but the nukes just stopped anyone else having ideas of using the already bruised at battered european countries to launch a strike.

lots of americans think they won the war with the nukes but it was more like a final statement from america to say enough was enough, everyone was done with war (for now)

I know they didn't, I had history in both elementary and high school.

Fiction · **Posted:** Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:55 pm

BuDo wrote:

penfold1992 wrote:

Tasdik wrote:

Fun fact: Japan doesn't even have a military. The United States is it's military.

And, I also doubt China would ever fight the U.S. Why? Because we're their biggest market. It makes no economical sense for them to attack the U.S.

Plus, even though China has backed NK in the past, recently even China has been telling NK to calm down.

So much for China, Japan, and NK vs Murica.

if china fought US and won, there would be no US market. if you remove US from the global economy money would crash and need to be rebuilt somehow... its not china that would suffer against everyone else' economy its everyone suffering!

I dont think any would "team up" to fight against the US but rather... hit the US as individuals, that would more likely be the case anyway even though that is very slim. i just wanted to make it clear that its more likely to be japan vs america, china vs america and nk vs america.

actually... what do other people think would happen if america suddenly disappeared? what would happen to the global economy, global security etc?

Umm debt free countries.....Countries get to keep their resources for themselves....No more super power nation thinking it should be the world's police.....It would be a celebration...

Wow a person that doesn't know China exist...

If America fell, it would be just like any other country, only the trade currency would be the Euro, or a Chinese and Russian combination currency. But yeah if we're talking about them getting wiped off the map, it would be like if any other country with 300 million plus population that contributes to the world market in a big way, getting wiped out. Most importantly... No more Hollywood ='( I don't wanna watch Turkish action flicks! Now Russians have some awesome movies though.

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

To be truthful I wouldn't want to see america gone (or any nation)... because we'd lose a piece of ourselves on a global scale.... Not to mention places like america is the world's hub for multiculturalism...something I highly endorse for the benefit of people learning and understanding about each other....

Fiction · **Posted:** Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:37 pm

BuDo wrote:

To be truthful I wouldn't want to see america gone (or any nation)... because we'd lose a piece of ourselves on a global scale.... Not to mention places like america is the world's hub for multiculturalism...something I highly endorse for the benefit of people learning and understanding about each other....

Now if only America could get rid of it's authoritarianism like personality, we'd be a country that's truly great. I know there's a lot of talk about world policing, but there is also a major problem with these law makers trying to criminalize every single citizen. I'm sure anyone over the age of 21 could be found guilty of at least one kind of felony, be it drug possession, tax evasion, or doing more than 20mph over the speed limit, etc etc... we're all criminals here...

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

Just don't break any law and you should be fine.. xD

I Am Vegeta · **Posted:** Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:03 pm

NORTH KOREA HAS LAUNCHED THEIR FLEET TO ATTACK US. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

Fiction wrote:

If America fell, it would be just like any other country, only the trade currency would be the Euro, or a Chinese and Russian combination currency. But yeah if we're talking about them getting wiped off the map, it would be like if any other country with 300 million plus population that contributes to the world market in a big way, getting wiped out. Most importantly... No more Hollywood ='( I don't wanna watch Turkish action flicks! Now Russians have some awesome movies though.

Japanese horror every time then.

*BlackFox wrote:

Just don't break any law and you should be fine.. xD

Lol, in practice that would mean not existing.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

Bartic wrote:

I know they didn't, I had history in both elementary and high school.

well.. america's education system usually looks something like this:

Aventus wrote:

Penfold, you think Americans think we won the war with nukes we know it was basically a way to shut the war down completely.

germany had surrendered. no more german threat, they even signed the agreement that ended the war BEFORE the bombs were dropped on japan.

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