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Don't get too pissed PsYch008 dun wanna see you banned again..

Anyways, drugs CAN destroy your life. However if you learn to use drugs in a normal, not harming way you can easily live a normal life


@ woutR was not need to quote it and post it here ..

Dont blame PsYch008 if for it..

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I'm not blaming PsYch008, I just told him in advance it's no use getting pissed again when that could get him banned again and I don't want to see that happen.

Also, did you get hacked?

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ok, dom, tell me how all the things branching from one thing counts as more than one thing... its one thing. just because that one thing has other issues attached to it doesnt mean its more than one thing.


Lets say I was addicted to video games, I was over wieght, I dropped out of school, I lost my job, I live in my parents basements, sure it's only ONE problem.

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It depends on the kid, so anyone's theories about whether being strict or not really doesn't matter. If you have a kid that wont shut up and keeps backtalking, you should smack him around a little. If he listens to what you say and does what you ask, then reward him or hold off on smacking him around. :P


I got smacked around when I was younger, until I learned what was right, and what wasn't right. After learning the difference between good and bad, I never for punished. Just had the guilt inducing disappointed speech. Which of course, if you love your parents, is a million times worse then any beating.


Thats how it worked with me. I got my butt kicked once when I was a kid, and since then I've hardly ever been punished for doing anything wrong, since I hardly ever did do anything wrong. I respect my parents and they know it, but I'm almost 19 now so it doesn't really matter what happens here as long as I'm still paying rent lol.

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I'm not blaming PsYch008, I just told him in advance it's no use getting pissed again when that could get him banned again and I don't want to see that happen.

Also, did you get hacked?
Ok :)

What you mean hacked?

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ok, dom, tell me how all the things branching from one thing counts as more than one thing... its one thing. just because that one thing has other issues attached to it doesnt mean its more than one thing.


Lets say I was addicted to video games, I was over wieght, I dropped out of school, I lost my job, I live in my parents basements, sure it's only ONE problem.


first of all, you cant get addicted to video games.

second, i see your point, but all the things he listed were directly related to the main issue. If you were overweight, it wasnt because you played video games too much, it was because you ate too much crap, didnt exercise, etc. if you dropped out of school it is because you didnt go. if you lost your job, same thing, you didnt go. those are multiple issues.

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ok, dom, tell me how all the things branching from one thing counts as more than one thing... its one thing. just because that one thing has other issues attached to it doesnt mean its more than one thing.


Lets say I was addicted to video games, I was over wieght, I dropped out of school, I lost my job, I live in my parents basements, sure it's only ONE problem.


first of all, you cant get addicted to video games.

second, i see your point, but all the things he listed were directly related to the main issue. If you were overweight, it wasnt because you played video games too much, it was because you ate too much crap, didnt exercise, etc. if you dropped out of school it is because you didnt go. if you lost your job, same thing, you didnt go. those are multiple issues.

I agree. PB: not exercising, not going to school or to work must be a genetic issue. Don't blame it on a psychological addiction.

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im 19 but ill reply becouse this parenthood thing is one of fields i tought quite few times about
do you get disciplined by your parents for talking back?
-i always talked back when i was right i was sent to my room when i was wrong i was eighter smacked( rarely) or given long lesson how to behave and why im wrong(often)
Do you kids have chores?
i hate doing dishes my parents understood that and being first child and male none the less they treated me easy about some things...i did vacuming dusting and vaxing floor one a week i still do that
I was raised pretty strictly and demanding im firstborn ( i have younger sister) so i had to be best and had to set up example for younger sister(i did set it bad one)
In my opinion kids should be treated like best friend
explanation:kid should be put on some sport since hes like 4 years old he should allways have parents attention ( but not to much of it) he should always be listened,yes the kid, and parents should always talk whit it see what kid wants then make agreaments whit kid let him know there is reward if he listens to if he doesnt list dont beat him ( i cant explain my logic and tactic this way becouse its waaaay complicated) yes there are punishments they just have to be there dont they but if u reised chiled right way there is almost no need for them i could talk about how to do it whole day long ( my parents went wrong whit me in soo many ways that first of all i tought how i wont make same mistakes whit my kid and i wont
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actually no dom... not going to school is not genetic. and neither are any of those other things, now you are just being silly.

and... my addiction is physical.

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I'm not blaming PsYch008, I just told him in advance it's no use getting pissed again when that could get him banned again and I don't want to see that happen.

Also, did you get hacked?
Ok :)

What you mean hacked?


Because suddenly you speak english a lot better oO

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I'm not blaming PsYch008, I just told him in advance it's no use getting pissed again when that could get him banned again and I don't want to see that happen.

Also, did you get hacked?
Ok :)

What you mean hacked?


Because suddenly you speak english a lot better oO


Near 4,500 posts, that's a lot of practice. He's getting better at english, I noticed this a while ago.

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ok kids, this is a question for you. actually, a few questions.

do you get disciplined by your parents for talking back?

Hell yes, I do. But when I'm just playing around, they know it. But when I don't show respect, not just to them - but anybody else, I get in trouble. Respect and courtesy is one of the most important things - that's how I'm brought up.

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Do you kids have chores?
-when i was a kid, i had to mow the lawn, vaccuum the house, do the dishes every night (we had a dishwasher but mom didnt like it so i had to wash them by hand) dust, clean my bathroom, and pick the weeds in the back yard. I had to do all this without getting an allowance.

Yes, I do. And I find it ridiculous that some kids these days have nannies and housemaids and things to do everything for them. They just sit back and watch TV all day long. My parents actually own a store, and I have to work for them the entire summer, as well as every Saturday during the school year, on top of my homework - which I get alot of, considering that I live in Plano, and the PISD is one of the top school districts in the nation. 4-5 hours of homework a night, on average - no exaggeration. Then there are house chores as well.

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It just seems today like people don't discipline their children anymore...


when i was a kid i couldnt play video games longer than maybe 30 mins to an hour every WEEKEND... and nowadays kids can play for hours even on the week days... it just doesnt seem fair.

My parents used to be like that as well. No computer OR TV expect on the weekends, and not more than about 30 minutes. But now that I'm older, they get less and less strict - trust me and have the respect for me to make my own decisions. Besides, I don't WANT to sit in front of the TV and computer all day. I have things to do with my life.

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Was my childhood just really tough or is it different nowadays?


Your childhood seems like my childhood, and that's how a childhood should be. Kids who are born with a silver spoon in their mouth, and are pampered by their parents will eventually turn out to be for the worse when they get older, and mommy and daddy isn't there to breastfeed them anymore.


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Disregarding the other discussion:

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ok kids, this is a question for you. actually, a few questions.

do you get disciplined by your parents for talking back?

Hell yes, I do. But when I'm just playing around, they know it. But when I don't show respect, not just to them - but anybody else, I get in trouble. Respect and courtesy is one of the most important things - that's how I'm brought up.

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Do you kids have chores?
-when i was a kid, i had to mow the lawn, vaccuum the house, do the dishes every night (we had a dishwasher but mom didnt like it so i had to wash them by hand) dust, clean my bathroom, and pick the weeds in the back yard. I had to do all this without getting an allowance.

Yes, I do. And I find it ridiculous that some kids these days have nannies and housemaids and things to do everything for them. They just sit back and watch TV all day long. My parents actually own a store, and I have to work for them the entire summer, as well as every Saturday during the school year, on top of my homework - which I get alot of, considering that I live in Plano, and the PISD is one of the top school districts in the nation. 4-5 hours of homework a night, on average - no exaggeration. Then there are house chores as well.

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It just seems today like people don't discipline their children anymore...


when i was a kid i couldnt play video games longer than maybe 30 mins to an hour every WEEKEND... and nowadays kids can play for hours even on the week days... it just doesnt seem fair.

My parents used to be like that as well. No computer OR TV expect on the weekends, and not more than about 30 minutes. But now that I'm older, they get less and less strict - trust me and have the respect for me to make my own decisions. Besides, I don't WANT to sit in front of the TV and computer all day. I have things to do with my life.

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Was my childhood just really tough or is it different nowadays?


Your childhood seems like my childhood, and that's how a childhood should be. Kids who are born with a silver spoon in their mouth, and are pampered by their parents will eventually turn out to be for the worse when they get older, and mommy and daddy isn't there to breastfeed them anymore.


you are gonna be a great adult fena :love:

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I'm not blaming PsYch008, I just told him in advance it's no use getting pissed again when that could get him banned again and I don't want to see that happen.

Also, did you get hacked?
Ok :)

What you mean hacked?


Because suddenly you speak english a lot better oO


oh really , Hehehe Never know ...O.O hmm

LOL dom ...you to noticed it i see ,

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nice, im glad we still have some tough parents out there :) thats good to hear.

if you have strict parents, you will do better in life. or so i see it.


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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myself... i have a lot of problems... right now i am addicted to heroin, i dont shoot it up, i smoke it, but yea its really not good, i have been doing it every day for about 2.5 months now, and i'm to the point where it would be impossible for me to stop without some perscriptions, i really dont recommend doing this drug... anyone thinking about it should think again. please take my words into consideration... you dont want to be addicted to this shit...

it takes over, you need it, and it makes you spend crazy amounts of money... my habit costs me about 140 dollars a week.

i wanted to post this not to brag, because this is not something to brag about, but in stead to try to help anyone that might be thinking about trying this drug... or any really addictive drug for that matter. It isnt worth it...

it causes a lot of depression, and when you dont have it, you pretty much cant do anything. it controls your life. your body NEEDS it, and you feel like complete shit without it, you don't even feel like getting up out of bed. please people, don't make my mistakes, learn from me.

anyway, i hope i can help some people by posting this.


good job retard, lets pull the ONE BAD THING in my life and try to say that my whole life is bad, i laugh at you sir.

yes, my family has a history of drug issues, it is genetic.

everything else in my life is way beyond anyone my age, go ahead and try to tell me it isnt.

you are just plain dumb for trying to pull what you just did.

tell me how you are doing when you are my age, lets see how that goes.

oh, and your life is perfect, you have no problems, and you never have right? god get a life.


I said LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, which is far from stating your whole life is bad.

Not stating my problems doesn't mean I'm an emotional-less douchebag who has no life. I just choose not to tell everybody what my problems are, I'm working them out on my own.

I have edited my first post, which I agree could have been more kind, but for you to state that you are way beyond anyone your age and to make such a reply you just did.....

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Uhmm this is an opinion thread. Arguing about others opinion has as much use as a chocolate fireman.


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Thats how it worked with me. I got my butt kicked once when I was a kid, and since then I've hardly ever been punished for doing anything wrong, since I hardly ever did do anything wrong.
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That pretty much sums it up. I see far too many brats giving their parents or any other authority trouble. Same goes for "rebels" who think it's cool to call all police officers "pigs".

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Thats how it worked with me. I got my butt kicked once when I was a kid, and since then I've hardly ever been punished for doing anything wrong, since I hardly ever did do anything wrong.
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That pretty much sums it up. I see far too many brats giving their parents or any other authority trouble. Same goes for "rebels" who think it's cool to call all police officers "pigs".
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I'm not that young but from my outsiders point of view it does seem this way. Kids are more and more reckless. I will not comment on my own teen years because it would be extremely biased commenting on it now.

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My dad will let me do whatever the hell i want as long asa i live out his dream of me being in marching band. -suicides-. band geek ftl

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if your child looks like that you should go to gun store buy a gun and kill yourself one sadistic son of ***** less :x
It's a joke. :banghead:

Here's another. :P
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qratz that has to be THE WORST joke i ever heard( one about kid) thou this new one can pretty much compit for title of the worst joke whit that one

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if your child looks like that you should go to gun store buy a gun and kill yourself one sadistic son of ***** less :x
It's a joke. :banghead:

Here's another. :P
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I didn't get it....is that like vote conservative or something :?

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qratz that has to be THE WORST joke i ever heard( one about kid) thou this new one can pretty much compit for title of the worst joke whit that one
They aren't mine. You can send your angry letters to Maddox.

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I didn't get it....is that like vote conservative or something :?
It's making a joke about how politicians tread lightly around issues like abortion and never take a firm stance. It's basically declaring a firm stance in which nobody wins. Since it says "against abortion" the pro-choice crowd lose, but after that it says "for killing babies" which means the pro-life crowd loses anyway.

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Well ill start off by saying my dad died when i was 11 so i in turn am the only male member (and the biggest) of the family left so i pick up alot of the slack around my house.

i dont talk back to my mom much but on occasion we do butt heads. she cant really hit me but im still scared shitless of her so it works out

i dont get paid for any of this and i do have a job

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well, im 18 now but here's my part in this:

my father has always ben rough on me, hell, i even got a blow to my face from him for talking back... i was 14 by then

and yes psych, i did live my life almost as you did, but you know what? i dont regreat it. im glad my parents were rough on me when i was a kid. it makes me be who i am today.

so, my vote is that parents should be rough on their children if the childrens are bad and disrispectable :D

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ok kids, this is a question for you. actually, a few questions.

do you get disciplined by your parents for talking back?
-when i was younger if i talked back, i got smacked and grounded.

Do you kids have chores?
-when i was a kid, i had to mow the lawn, vaccuum the house, do the dishes every night (we had a dishwasher but mom didnt like it so i had to wash them by hand) dust, clean my bathroom, and pick the weeds in the back yard. I had to do all this without getting an allowance.

It just seems today like people don't discipline their children anymore...


when i was a kid i couldnt play video games longer than maybe 30 mins to an hour every WEEKEND... and nowadays kids can play for hours even on the week days... it just doesnt seem fair.

Was my childhood just really tough or is it different nowadays?

discuss.


Your childhood was pampered.

You're in your 20's, right? Jesus, you should have seen what my brother had to do, it was bullshit, I'm glad times are different for me.

I used to get smacked around for talking back, but now I can beat the shit out of my dad if I want, so he doesn't do anything.

I don't have chores though, never really did. And for that, I'm glad.

Yeah, I think I play too many games, nowadays anyways. I never needed a boycott on game playing time before, now I probably do.

You should stop trying to be a smartass too. Or whatever you're trying to do.

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nice, im glad we still have some tough parents out there :) thats good to hear.

if you have strict parents, you will do better in life. or so i see it.


I agree, tough parents make a good kid. I almost wish my parents were tougher on me, but I figure I'd handle it pretty bad nowadays.

It's not like I'm disobediant or anything, in fact, I'm probably the most in line kid I've ever seen.
But... You know, I dunno. Maybe I'm just crazy. But it's true, I hate kids who do whatever they want, especially in public places and their parents do jack shit about it.

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Parents that treat their kids like are just so wrong, look what some of those kids end up to be. No offense psych but those problems are partly because of the way you were raised.

I have a friend whos parents are strict as a motherfuucker and that kid is a pussy, a nothing. Another friend whos parents let him do everything, and didnt give a shit, and hes a full stop drug addict.

It's all about how your parents raised you


Yeah, it's true. There's this kid at my school that I hate so much, but it's not his fault for being the way he is.

He was like abused or something by his parents, if your parents treat you with no love & stuff, then you will end up pretty bad.

But I still stick by parents should be firm. I'm glad my dad and mom were pretty tough on me in my youth, it makes me the badass I am today 8)

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I am 99% sure that doing drugs isn't genetic.

That's like saying "My good gaming skills come from my good genes".

Shit like that is aquired, not given by your parents.

And if you're like "Well, alchoholism is genetic". That's totally different.

Being an alchoholic occurs because your body is unable to process alchohol properly, and problems occur.

It's not like your genes make you think "I have to have alchohol or I'm gonna die!"

You took drugs because it was your conscious desition to do so. Not only that, but like I said, genetics (I'm almost positive) have no effect on your drug habits.


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I just turned 15 this month.

My mum gets angry if i talk back and dont clean up my room.

I dont really have organised chores, if shes asks me i'll just do it.

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When i was 8ish and under i got spanked a lot. I was a bratty little kid. But luckily most of it got spanked out of me. My Dad and Mom now say they regret punishing me so much when i was little. I tell them I'm glad they did, because it made me a better person. Now I'm bigger than both my parents, so if they tried to beat me they couldn't. We get along though. My parents listen to logic, and are very reasonable. We don't fight much.

but i still have a fear of long wooden spoons....

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Do you kids have chores?

I clean up the yard, give our dogs food water and exersice, do the dishes whenever they're dirty, clean my room, and do the laundry, not because they tell me to, but because if i dont do them they won't get done. My dad is usually working, My mom is usually taking my sisters somewhere, schedualling next years school, cooking meals, out with friends, lecturing my sisters, or just gone somewhere, and my sisters are to lazy, and to busy fighting with each other to do anything...so the chores fall to me...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:33 pm 
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reK wrote:
I just turned 15 this month.

My mum gets angry if i talk back and dont clean up my room.

I dont really have organised chores, if shes asks me i'll just do it.
basically same thing for me, except my room is clean lol

my dad threatened me many times though (in a diif language). i can tell it helped me though, it gave me some limits.

i can tell my parents are doing less of wat they did with me than with my younger siblings. they dont really try as hard to discpline them as they did with me (eg. if my 7 year old sis says a 'bad' word or something like that there like eh wtvr most of the time. with me complete opposite lol, i wouldve gotten my a$$ wooped)

and i do believe as the years go by the kids become more and more disrespectful to there elders. (in most cases)

btw im 15 yrs old

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 Post subject: Re: a question for the kids out there (people 15 and under)
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PsYch008 wrote:
do you get disciplined by your parents for talking back?
Not really sometimes maybe 2/3 times a year.

Do you kids have chores?
I should set the table up in the evening and my brother at midday, but if we dont do it nobody really cares( so we dont do it)

It just seems today like people don't discipline their children anymore...

when i was a kid i couldnt play video games longer than maybe 30 mins to an hour every WEEKEND... and nowadays kids can play for hours even on the week days... it just doesnt seem fair.
My mom has had about 5 plans to stop us from watching tv and playing on the pc, but didnt listen. AT first she told us to stop but afetr a while she forgot us just let us do what we want to do.
Was my childhood just really tough or is it different nowadays?
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